Call of duty players are noobs..
especially console ones :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJWiVcVuR68

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@ all the ppl that whine about YEA HARDCORE NEEDS SO MUCH MORE SKILL...... CUZ WE HAVE TO AIM FASTER PROMOD SUCKS BALLS BECAUSE YOU NEED AN ENTIRE CLIP TO KILL SOMEONE

explain to me the loads of +15's in loads and loads of fragmovies

yeayeayea sometimes you need to be faster on hardcore
but in promod you need to be consistent
wich NOONE of all the hardcore players is

THERE ARE NO GOOD HARDCORE TEAMS
NONE, every half decent promod team would DESTROY any high skilled hardcore team

I find it funny how everyone who's defending hardcore on here didin't ever get over 1200 points.

HC cod4 pubs.. those servers where noone moves?

great game :x

lol read this shit for 5 sec and was not waste of life it reminds me how kids rule the cod and countershit world and why i hate this games,.

They are crying because momy dont pay them a new dlc

Write a book.

Ha-Ha!! Maybe You need full magazine...

Just one thing. Then=/=than. Learn the goddamn difference. It's not that hard.

Well tbh. Red dot is useful.

Hard Core Cod4 = real life

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solution is switch to serious game.

I play good on all gametypes and modes in cod4.. aim, brain and moving - that's all u need to be good. It's easyy to kill snipers on Wet Work using M9 silenced ))
But the number of noobs is bigger on the HC, then on the promod
cuz HC is for funn, promod - is for cybersport. promod with hc - is da shit between promod and hc
That's all, that's true, that's mean I'm the god!

That's some BS! HC-promod is a game u do need skill..
they get in 1 bullet so u have to be quick and u have to have aim..

normal promod is unrealistic.. u need a full magazine to kill..

Totally agree.

u self noob u play tetris muhaaaaa

YOURE PLAYING IN PUBLIC THERE IS NO SKILL

Dude ur team have 863 pts lol and u tould to some 1 so there noobs - its u noob.

yes, finally alot of people realise HC is sh*t, its all about wallbang, and who ever see's who first, You cant call HC players noobs though just from a public server, cus the majority of players in public are dire. Get a grip

asd they aren't noob just their game is hc

Playing on HC =/= you're a noob.
Playing on non-HC promod =/= you're pr0.

Start typing when you understand that you can't insult all HC players because you played on one HC server with sprayers and you think that what you play is pro.

Nice blog

Pointless discussion, play whatever you want and have fun while doing it.

HC = lack of skillz. Just how it is.

I like em both.. its just a matter of gamestyle. With hc game is more tactical, expecially on s&d.. you always have to look a lot around on you, move cautiously, take constant cover and so on.. with sc you just have much more to run and gun...
Btw if anyone is up for hc s&d 5vs5 matches, just drop me a line!

lol its has nothing to do with realism! Its NOT realistic to die wenn someone shots you in the leg with a usp... so hardcore is NOT realistic.

CoD4 is a game, like in every game there are rules. this rules dont need to have something to do with realism. The rules have to be balanced and sensfull. And than just play the game...

Hardcore is not good because first look = fist kill, thats lame and skillless!

I agree with neo, realism should stand in front of all and in real you aren't shot a half magacine on one person to die!

.....so i think with spraying you can do more tactics than in softcore!!

BUT otherwise in softcore or promod you have to be better, aim + reaction!!
but m8s ppl should play what they want and everybody has still another oppinion!

but you can't say hc is for noob bobs thats unfair

nice story but i disagree with you.
hardcore is a good gametype that is more realistic then softcore.
here 1 shot kills the player, just in real life.
the only thing that i agree on are the pistols, the range of them isnt realistic.
but keep posting blogs. i almost pissed in my pants while reading this.

you played hard core public and you got shit players just like when you play softcore public...

get a hardcore match and you may find the players know what they are doing??

normal is noob. in real life is a type HUD?? and 4-6 shoot and death i think so 1-2 shoot and death. HC is real game. sorry for bad english

COD 4 are noob game

promod > HC.
no reason to explain why HC sux, imo nomod sux, Hc just a bit more, that's all.

you must be retarded to compare game to real life

mmm, promod is for Teenagers, shit and easy mod...

It's true

get a brain kid..

you are just showing how pathetic you are atm.

lol! ur calling HC people noobs, when urself got 700points on 2vs2 ladder whahahaha

All your points are floored, Hardcore is for Hardcore players softcore is for Softcore Players, Hardcore Doesn't give you a second chance, you dont get a second chance on the battlefield, A human cannot survive a deagle to the head how ever far away it was shot. 30% of game health not like 30% of a humans health Juggernaught is like a Flak jacket adding a little protection not to make you immune!! As regards your comments on needing less aim, It's takes 1-2 bullets to mame or even kill either way there out of the field, Just youtube some UK and US Afgan vids and you'll Soldiers lay covering fire and get hits not all kills have to be accurate to mame. A faster reaction/Good aim time is crucial in Hardcore cos if you miss your gonna Die! Rant over!! Hardcore Rocks no human will still be standing after a clip full of AK47 to the chest like in softcore *failcore* i doubt you are even still playing this game!!

Listen.. There is 2 versions of "HC".
The "true" is played on Nationscup and Eurocup, so against nations. And the "usually" hc is played on pub, where there is no mods (modwarfare, promod, ..), there is ranks, perks, and all of weapons, c4, etc..
So the "usually" hc is the NOOB hc, the _pro_ hc is the pam4final on the seasonal clanbase cups, and the promod played against clans on single cb matches and opencups, etc..
So many pub servers are in "usually" hc mode, and the "true" hc is rare, because it is played on seasonal cups.
So that is why everyone, who plays only promod XX.YY, say that hc players are noobs.
And remember : yes, in hc there is 1 bullet to kill, but i think it is planed for snipers (or rifles like in cod2), and not for the g3 or p90..
Play with "ranked", default server settings with all weapons, and play hc (1 bullet to kill) with snipers, like on my server.

i play both:
HC for completing all the mission an' shit and normal mode for fun

true all ;D HC sux

HC is for noobs thats true, no aim skill.

edit...

Loving all the hardcore bashing! So fking childish...

Who the hell do you think you are calling other people noobs because they enjoy a different game mode from you?

Are you 12?

Grow the fuck up and learn to be a little more tolerant of other people!

Hardcore gamers are not in the scene. They r like xbox or ps gamers. They are nowhere, they r noname noobs. Promod gamers are the bosses at cod4 scene.

GUYS! Stop talking about HC public servers where you can find ONLY noobs... There are few PAM4 servers, or just servers with restrictions.

You guys say: HC is noobish, because there is martydom or last stand or something else. You see noobs on public ones and you think every HC player is as noobish as "Terminator" from public...

Don't be silly...

Yeah, you right...I would like to add another big important thing, that is FPS. In normal game mode (some of us call it crap mode) I got about 50 FPS becose I don't got promod lightening, and decals OFF.On Promod (I'm talking about Promodlive) I've got 125 locked.... One good thing about Promodlive is no perks( my opinion) Becose, on HC there is always some noobs who uses martydrom, LS,Gl....

Ahhh guys come on... Try to beat HC's best clans and you will realize how "noob" they are -.-

But I know why a lot of players think HC is noobish: There are a lot of HC and Normal servers, and they are common. Promod is "elite" because noobs don't know what is that, and they just don't play it. Think a little: If Promod were more popular, would be there more noobs? Of course yes...

Why don't you whine because of noobish Normal players? I don't think they are better than HC noobs... Noob = Noob. No matter where is he playing, he is still a noob...

I think you shouldn't play that much on public servers, where you find these noobs.

There is a lot of difference between HC and Promod... I don't like promod because of non cookable nades, sniper cooldown, 2 headshots to kill... And i don't like when beginner kills me by a panic spray through the wall, but trust me, if some1 sprays you down in CB ladder match, you won't cry. Just respect him, because it is not so easy to find good place for wallbang.

Just respect each other.
Peace.

So why don't the pros play HC ??BECAUSE IT'S S*** !!!
and lowbots play hc because they need 2 kill with one bullet..i u are a skiller u will kill him with more bullets...my granny can kill with one bullet and game is a game not real life noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooobs !!!

..hardcore = pam4 = old = noob.. ?? -.-
pam4 HC is played on Nationscup and Eurocup,
the promod is for ONLY a single cb match (ok so many clans plays pam4 on some cb matches, but..).
So think it through, on cb matches there are "much" players, on the Nationscup there are "many". That is why so many people says this is a cryblog..
..HC is low?? HC have no hud, no uav, no crosshair, etc., so u are don't know where is the enemy, u are not waiting to the red dot on the radar to detect the enemy, and have to aim to the target and not watching your "permanent" crosshair on your screen.. Promod have it, so the aiming is easyer, and the HP (Health Point) is bigger in promod, so sometimes u have to shot 2-3 bullet to the target to kill it. That is ok, in HC have lesser HP, but if u shot by reflex and have a nice aiming, u have to shot only one bullet to kill the target.
The good aiming makes the players to get high skills and not to play a xxxth promod. When always the new promods are released, they have wronger "shoot reg".
The same problem is the regen system in CoD series..
But globally, yes, "COD4 is shite".
..Yes, it is the BAD TRUE...

hardcore is no aim!

getting to nr1 on the hc ladder is easy as fuck, but getting to nr1 on the promod ladder isn't.

enuff said.

I think you'd find people using LMGs and AGOCs in a normal pub aswell ..?

Anyway everyone shouting stuff like "HC is low" just joins the bandwagon and says it because they don't know how to approach hardcore. You shouldn't compare HC and promod, you shouldn't compare promod private games and a default softcore pub at all. Hardore requires a person to have a different set of what and what not to do. Don't base your hardcore opinion on a 40 man public TDM, because who actually enjoys that? People who play that do not usually play clanbase matches.

Yes the skill level in the hardcore ladder is considerably lower than the promod ladder, but there is 50x the amount of games in the promod ladder aswell. Any rank 500 would not beat a HC clan and a HC clan won't beat a decent promod clan. So what is this 'skill', 'pro' and 'noobs' everyone is talking about it is two different things. Don't like hardcore? Don't touch it. You won't buy a Toyota car if you totally hate Japanese cars, so why care for hardcore if you hate hardcore?

The key is, to actually enjoy the game. If your goal is to reach the top then good luck with it, just do not freak out when someone tags you in the chest and kills you (HC), while in normal mode you the skillzor could easily jump sidewards hit him twice and use your mighty SOZ4OWNED bind.

I self prefer promod over hardcore, but playing hardcore stays fun and anyone mindlessly raging over some bad hardcore pub experience should just shut up and get over it.

"promod is for noobs." hahaha sure, sure...
just look at the hc teams here in cb... who the fuck are they?!? fucking nonames. Then look at the teams playing in the promod ladder...
pls get this in ur cfg:
cl_brain 1

You are good @ cod4 as I understand, In our community we did a little test, HC vs promod players, and guess what happened, promod players pwned HC always (in Promod and in HC mode =) ) soo, shitty news for ya, pro

be pro spam with g3

dude you know that hardcore pub heroes are just another category of players.... We choose cbing they choose hcing and having fun the way the game officially is

dont forget, promod is just a modification of the game we all love, the real game as developed by IW is on ranked pubs...


sad but true tho... :/

hardcore is for the peeps who don't know what actually gaming is and they use the excuse yes in reallife you are dead in 1 bullet aswel.....
play other games morons -_-
welcome to gaming world and not reallworld:P

playing hardcore make you noob

Promod Forever!!!!!!

This is just your opinion and i have to respect it but you m8...you are fkn sick!!!
If you don't like HC mode just don't play it.

promod isn't for pro, promod is for noobs:
there is a viewfinder at the center of the screen, the radar, you can see the enemies on the radar and this thing is for real noobs...
with a eagle bullet in the head you can't jump happily like a rabbit, with an eagle bullet in the head you should be out fighting... You should be dead... uauhauhahua
In promod Is Sniper aim fixed? omg the viewfinder is still always, is this a fixed? no this is really noob for me...
I could go on but I will stop:
the game is already quite arcade, hardcore makes it more real and more difficult...

hmm i dont like the game at all but you really have to be a pathetic nolife person to actually make a blog about this. and it's annoying to see blogs on the wright side of my screen all the time i suggest you start doing something usefull for a change

=) HC is for noobs good 1 m8 =D

Yes, but WaW sold better, and in commercial views that's more important. But if you counter argument with Downloadable content packs you might be right. Although I don't know if everyone who plays cod4 would buy those.

Too true.
Look at the entire Cod Serie and see what's played most.
Right... Cod4.
Even Cod WaW is played less cus people get bored of the WO2 games eventually.

Errr, does anyone play the game for fun? to have a laugh while playing against and with friends?
Basically, who gives a damn who gets top slot, or whether or not its realistic. Its a game, created so you can have fun (which is usually the general idea of a game)
As for HC and Promod etc.... its all a question of taste, what you enjoy playing, personally I prefer HC simply because the screen isn't filled with crap and there isnt a daft cross in the middle of the screen. Other people prefer other mods for whatever reason they choose.
At the end of the day, I win? I lose? I dont give a damn as long as I have had fun playing.

edit: wtf is wrong with the edit button?

Yeah, try reading what I wrote next time, Einstein.

why the fuck would u want realism in a game?

yeah im pretty sure in reality u bunnyhop over shit and run into battle with no tactics

Even bothered to think not everyone is native English speakers here? wich might be the case. Has always narrowed ego dudes like you think they're the shit just cos they read something misspelled.
When You can speak any language then English better then some of the "unsuitable literates" over here speak English then your criticism might not sound like a douche speaking.

Then you try to put everyone that doesn't play "Proshit" like noobs when u are the one sounding like one and whinning by being owned by people having fun PLAYING A GAME. If you don't like it go and play promod or cs source since it kinda resembles now so much. Go and waist those game gun clips on your pro friends and let us have our fun the way we like it.

dupe post

I laughed @ "noob's", if you're going to try and write a blog at least make sure you're suitably literate.

What the hell is the point of this? Whining about a shitty game mode on an online game hardly seems like a productive use of your time. The only CoD4 worth playing is Promod & Pam4, publics are nothing more than a time wasting exercise and anyone who expects them to be about skill is living in another world.

Take a look at insurgency game-mod fo instance. Difficult has hell. Very fast passed game and real as an HC on shot damage. Very respected mod. It's all about realism.

If you say to me that people that play promod well when playing HC own it's true. That doesn't mean Promod is better.
It just makes you better.

It's about taste and I honestly prefer real damage and wider choice of weapons except for noob perks. I even love claymores even thought I rarely use them. I love avoiding them. Why? It's the real feeling!

Mods like damn or promod just ruined that...

If you are a good promod player U are definitely a good HC player. U get killed by noobs more in HC? Well... In real life you get killed by kids with ak47. How about that?
Still if u are good at promod or HC you will be on top list at the end of the game for sure. A good player is good at both.

hahaha discution of child...

play for fun, not for know who have the biggest dick !!

Guess thats why everyone plays COD4 o0

exactly what makes all cs retarded game...
hardcore mode in cod4 is for lowbies... in cod2 the damage balance is perfect, but in cod4 is a bit fail...

oh and uhm... try to lower health in cs to 30 and see what happens
-.- dumb cs players

The CoD franchise got destroyed when Cod4 came out
Still the best game is Cod2 folowed by cs:s

Anyone who still plays stock COD4 whether HC or SC is probably more likely to be low-skilled.

PROMOD FTW

There are some funny conclusions I can make after playing cod games for a long time. I now also play cod4 because lingering on the past is just going to end in doing nothing. So I started playing cod4. I played cod2 a very long time, and some things remained the same, somethings have changed...
When I play with some friends of mine in publics they tend to be top fraggers, because they know how the slimy campers think. I however do not, because I have never seen so much camping in my life.
If we however play a war together things are suddenly the other way around and I often end out with a better score than they have. This is simply because the tactics of the game change drastically depending on the type of game in cod4 you are playing. Playing wars is still greatly the same. The difference between public's and serious matches has however grown.

I've played around 500hrs on our pub HC srvr (many perks/ weapons forbidden; what would even happen if they weren't locked, oh gosh) and I'll tell u this: HC is low, promod > all, Cpt.Obvious ftw. hi

err after atleast 2 months (probally after 1 week already) ppl are high skilled or nubs


what a stupid quote, it is litterally impossible to get high skilled after only 2 months of playing UT, i would honestly give you my house

Ok:

I've played CoD4 for a solid 30 hours.
Whenever I go to a hardcore server im on top. I dont know the maps I dont know the perks Im like level 34. And still I own.. Its so easy, Ive played FPS games since 2001. All I do is aim in the direction on an enemy, fire 3 bullets and I get the kill. Its not even hard, you dont need brains for it. Just some random luck and a little game sence ( which 90% of the players DONT have )

Now you say CS:S is random bullshit. Well its not.

You die in a straight hs from the following guns:

Without Helmet:
Deagle
Awp
Scout
Auto-sniper
Ak47
M4
galil
Famas ( not bursted )

These guns kill instantly with a headshot.

Most other guns do so aswell, depending on the range tho.

Now: When you actually buy a vest ( 1000$ )

AWP, SCOUT, AK47, DEAGLE are still instant HS = dead.

M4 headshot = about 88/94 damge, which means any next hit will obviously kill you.

With other guns it obviously depens on the range. You can shoot 3/4 headshot witha glock on someone with a helmet, he wil not die. But have you ever seen a real glock ? after 150/200m the power is gone, a piece of wood can block it easly. So thats why the helmet in css does aswell.

Now the recoil... ever tried spraying while walking in css ? ( yes you did, and you failed )

walking and spraying in css, makes the recoil uncontrolable.

but when crouched/standing still, you can controll it, with some good mouse controll and a decent brain. Well, in real life you can control your recoil aswell. ( not james bond, he is fake with 300 bullets in a .37 )

Ever tried spraying while walking in cod4 ( yes you did, and you made lots of kills in HC, thats why you like it. )

RUN SPRAY --> LUCKY HIT --> KILL --> +1 --> Feeling all pro --> NEGATIVE.


Any way my points is:

- Dont say you know css, you just dont. If you played it for 3 years. You most likely played without monitor !

- Dont say HC is good/pro/skilled.. Its not, it really isnt. My 10 year old cousin can do that. Its like duckhunt, just aim and hope for the best. That not gaming, thats playing Lucky Luck.

- Oh I bought CoD5 aswell, well I could write a funny story about this crappy game aswell. But I think my keyboard would laugh too hard, to actually write it.

err after atleast 2 months (probally after 1 week already) ppl are high skilled or nubs
it doesnt matter how long a game is around most ppl wont get any beter then they are atm meight look they get beter but thats bullshit
once some1 reached "high" skill thats the end u wont get much beter then that
i can play cod for years and still not reach the eurocup skill thats just how it is some ppl are good at a game others are shit at it

btw u got most fun when ur shit at a game :P so u always got some competition ^.^

Look when the UT 2004 was released, and when CoD4 came out.. I belive that after 4 years of people playing CoD4 it will not be so easy getting high skills.

hehe yeah ut2004 > all

Post 2 you.

That's exactly what i was thinking.

Call of Duty 4 is a good game, but only on non ranked pro-mod servers. were the real players come to it.
BUt indeed. if your talking about skills. the UT/Quake scene is the best.

As you were saying starting with minimum firepower and collecting better items is a good way.

And the UT serie is in my opinion still the toughest collection there is.

For example. try playing an Instagib match to an skilled player, well. good luck. thats way harder than picking up an LMG or an ak74 with all those perks and just stand in middle of map and type +right in console and press your firebutton.

hardcore = pam4 = old = noob

If really, they are weak in the usual mode
Think u suspected why

takes skill 2 play neopets, i been playing 6 years and cant get on toplist of any game god damn chinese hackers

some <3 to ya m8,u'r damn right!

imo if you want to play a game with real skill, as far as i can tell UT/Quake are the best games to see real skill and experienced players who've got good only after playing for 3-5 years. I've been playing UT2004 now for 2 years and i'm still only mid skill. i've been lucky enough to play with good players who were willing to let me play with them/spec them, so i learnt many things there. Reading articles on clanbase about FPS games leaves the impression that you can become good, e.g high skill only after a few weeks/months of playing, e.g COD4. In UT2004 for example, all you have at the beginning of a match is an assault rifle and a shield gun, you have to go around the map looking for weapons and then time them if you're playing TDM for e.g. There are also powerups to time and map knowledge ect. UT2004 takes years of putting shitloads of effort into playing to get any decent skill. It's the only pc game i've ever played and will be the only game that i'll play. COD4 and similar games suck, noobs can easily kill you which would never happen oldskool games.

You're talking like CS/CS:S is right on the money in terms of weapon damage and frag frequency, yet you cannot be further from the truth. You complain that CoD4 headshots don't kill in one shot, yet CS:S do. Here's a well-known fact for you: Most of the kills in CS:S ARE headshots, because the developers screwed up the line of recoil big time. Instead of spitting bullets in all directions, like typical recoil is, Valve made it so that recoil is directed straight up and shoots your face off.

CS:S, which I played for three years, annoyed the living shit out of me because of the massive majority of headshots in the game, it was so unrealistic.

So don't back-talk about CS:S having a more realistic damage/fragging system than CoD4. Ridiculous.

And in response to your final paragraph, "takes 3 shots to chest to kill", I'm not supporting Softcore in CoD4 here, but you're insisting that your inaccurate estimation of "3 chest shots" should be lowered to counter the surrealism. You're forgetting this is a video game - there needs to be some boundaries, matching real life damage and gaming damage wouldn't be a popular idea. Video game battling involves unpredictability, little to no teamwork (in public play), independent objective completion and, therefore, increased health. If everyone who ever plays public worked as a proper team, like in real life, there would be no need for the "high" amount of health or durability in your eyes. But the fact is, this is a game, and it's never, ever going to be life-like, so un-life-like characteristics are employed to create the ideal gaming environment.

I'm a hardcore supporter still, though.

Not sure why I even bothered explaining that to you. You're clearly an idiot.

Googletranslater

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HC players says: "play what ever you want!"
SC players says: "HC players are noobs!"

You see the difference?

maybe

just maybe

ur shite

Go play counter strike u noobs. 2 shots in the chest to kill a guy out of HC. How real is that? One head shot might not kill lol. How real is that? Promod sucks hard. They took all the guns and left counter strike for noobs with no life.
The fun in COD4 his all about the new and MODERN WARFARE GUNS! If u don't like it go back to CS Source. Realism is what a good game is all about.

Just tested PROSHIT on a few hitboxes aspects:

1 headshot doesn't kill(only sniper, g3 and deagle don't)
sometimes when shooting straight to the head at just a few feet you miss!
takes 3 chest shots to kill a guy.

Is he trying to explain somth cause i don't think he would understand it himself :P

Nice blog and so true!

Cryblog.

lol dont play HC just play Clanbase wars

WTF are you talkin' 'bout, dude this makes no sense at all.

think of the hardcore mode for noob'ów he can not play on it and was going ... always so if something can not go or if someone in some manner that is be ... Think of a lamo because you think you are hight on pro mod ?

all wo say hardcore is for noobs challenge hardcore teams and play and you will see lol .


i playing befor longtime normal and ist sure not realistic to put 15 bullets do die or not and you have a radar omg who is the noob ???

hardcore forever

Well i play both HC and Promod... The only reason is that i play HC more then promod is that the community is more peacefull and nice to each other well HC if u maybe kill 2 and die once or something they still say ul or nt... In promod if u miss 10 shots or something and the other guy kills u... ur team start whining about u are a big noob and u cant hit and so on.... now im talking about Public servers... Both in Promod and HC... (Tbh HC Public sucks but still some nice peeps) HC pam4 is more funnier and i enjoy it. HC 1-2 shots a kill Promod 2-4 shots depending on were u hit him so its almost the same so stop whining about it and play what u like.

if ppl want realism wtf are they playing cod4 LMAO fakking rtards

lol @ the amount of text in here

I'm right with you m8. Why the Hell do people get so arsey over a game? Unless they got no lives or are about 10.

It's a game guys.... So what if you think you've got more game skills than all those ppl u seem to just LOVE calling names? Doesn't mean a pile of horse-shit in rl. G-A-M-E !

I'd rather do HC as well I must admit. It IS slightly more realistic than firing a few rounds at your opponent - thus inviting them to dance.

As for hand shots - foot shots counting as a kill ... hmmm not quite... but I think it might put a stop to you in rl? So why not in the game?

My War arranger just signed us up to ClanBase (I've been here before with another Clan) Not sure if I like the idea tbh....We'll see - My beef with organisations like ClanBase (they do a good job, don't get me wrong) is they tend to be full of jumped up numptys with overinflated egos that like nothing better than to swear their little hearts out and slag off all and sundry and every other gametype they don't personally like. (I'm sick of seeing the word noob!)

In perspective..... It's not a REAL skill - it's a game! Why not just enjoy it and have a few laffs?

ErrLloyd, dude..

In the same style as »eF«.LudacriS!` I'd like to point out a few things:

I admit that I'm rather new to this CB thing, since i'm a Maltese guy playing with an Italian clan we don't get much CB action, but that said we always play [pam4 CB Rules HC] for official SD matches, and by official I mean non-CB CWs. Bandolier and Stopping Power and that's it. Certain perks and weapons like Martyr, Last Stand, noob-tube and what not are lame by default, HC or non-HC. Weapon selection is reduced as customary, you know the deal.

Now I don't know about you, but many SC players are deliberately (?) 'forgetting' how much the HUD makes life easier. Knowing that the guy is just around the corner or is up on the 2nd floor of a building. That way you can always get a few more shots in. HC players are always covering their arses, coz they can't afford to be careless.

Oh yes, I'd love to run across a 200m field and survive 2 or 3 sniper shots, but is that realistic? Some SC players argue that being killed by a shot in the hand but if I had to choose the 'less realistic option' I'd take the former. Surviving air-raid shrapnel, or a Barrett (yeah noob rifle i get it but hey..) down the chest? Interesting.

Gamers are always whining about games that are too detached from reality, so why complain about a game that is truly giving us a glimpse of reality? One bullet to the chest WILL kill you. I played SC when I was still a 'free agent'. Now I play HC and can never go back to SC, although i do play the occasional promod sometimes. Btw, it only takes a few rounds to get used to it if you're a decent HC player.

Lamers and noobs exist on any server, especially public ones. HC could be improved if the damage multiplier was more concentrated around the torso area, with maybe just a little bit more HP.

Conclusion: just play your game, and let us HC players bother about the HC noobs, just as you do about yours.

what aload of Sh***, softcore is for bunnyhopping idiots who ,think the game is about bouncing up and down and rapidly crouching, now how many war docs or movies have you seen bunnyhopping soldiers?, thats the dang reason it takes half-full clip to take em down,
with hardcore ,its more realistic as 2 bullets,or 1 even can bring opponent (and yourself remember,so its even on that score) down, hc is more realistic,as all those , real life massacres and battles will testify, 1 bullet can kill, 300 bullets is extreme idiocy
so stop pretending to be the be all and know all of cod4
hardcore represents real gameplay
and stop moaning about perks,use em or not ,
they are in the game, so they apply to the game,just deal with it

did i say anything bout vacant? no? so stfu, i garantee your aim must be "pro" cause your in "pro" clan who play "pro"mod
tbh - most promod players need to get a real job (& life) and stop beating of to hentai(random?)

Garantee your aim sucks

hardcore players play vacant becuase they can wallbang at A all day

i love wallbanging , specially when promod players are involved, why do all promod players get on like dicks??(to each other and silly binds...ect...), hardcore community ftw!

K so hardcore sucks. Any more groundbreaking News?
xD

Firefox fucked up ...

OMG go play Softcore in pam4 mod then you wouldnt complain about the bullet damage

2 hits - 1 kill (Unless you can't aim and hit the legs, because then it's 3 shots). So if your aim sucks so bad you need one and a half clip to hit someone twice, then I've got one single comment for you:
Uninstall game pl0x ...

Edit: Provided you're using either the ak-47, ak-74 or deagle.

Rather than quote your whole brilliant comment I think I will just quote that and say I appreciate your reply and appreciate all the things you have to say. Although I feel you greatly exaggerate the amount of bullets required for a kill in "Softcore" I greatly exaggerate the amount not required for one in HC so its fair enough. I appreciate hardcore can be more entertaining especially for people who want to mess about with a Skorpion or Mp44, but I dispute the "realism" of it compared to normal mode. In a match situation I would fully dispute its credible claim to fair gameplay.

However this is subjective.

Lloyd, I'll address you as an adult, unlike a majority of idiots haven't done so far.

I think the idea of hardcore is not to take death/respawning so much for granted. The objective, to each individual, is to act stealthier, work on their movements and map awareness skills, to reduce the number of they face an opponent and, as you say Lloyd, die from a single bullet.

But we both know that's rubbish nowadays, right? There's no true reason why people play hardcore, nor why it exists in the first place. It's just for those who prefer fast killing and, inevitably, fast dying, without the 'inconvenience' of having a head-up display blocking south of the view or the great big crosshair blocking your weapon's sight.

Personally, I love hardcore, and can't stand 'softcore' much anymore. As each day passes, I look to play in hardcore servers as much as possible, because of the realism. Not the HUD removal-supposedly-realistic stuff, but the weapon damage. Yes, it might seem ridiculous to be killed in one bullet, but think about it - is it?

In softcore, I seriously don't believe that it takes half a magazine of AK47 bullets to kill a man. It wouldn't happen in real life (not that I know, but have you heard of a war survivor from 15 AK47 bullets to the chest?) and certainly shouldn't happen in a video game. So, in hardcore, when I fire off 4/5 M4 bullets into an opponent, therefore fragging them, it seems right. Mind you, I always enable stopping power, so perhaps my opinion is compromised by that addition.

Of course it depends on aim as well, but that's another issu. It's definitely more right than wasting 15/20 bullets (with crappy aim on the day) on killing someone - which is, in some servers, a pathetic 1/4 of the ammunition you're given with the M4 before dying or finding another gun. But, also, that's another issue.

The obvious advice is, stay out of hardcore servers really, although they're growing rapidly in the 1.7 community. Have fun.

Amazing a Game has such influence on peoples lives.
I play HC, i enjoy it. Is there anyone here who would play a game they didnt like? i'd bet no! lol remember its a game, HC or SC who cares just enjoy it!

Hardcore is going no where competively so they should release a patch that gets rid of it so every 1 must play defualt haha

hit it! 200

ye moron but HC not mean camping LOL at u. Its depends of players and they camping on any mod, jesus christ, played once with lames and now complain about hc grow up.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA AMAZING!!!!

That has to be the best every topic on CB.

I completly agree with this post!! Im gonna read some of the comments later.

How many off u HC player stand around with your LMG's shooting forward??

fucking crap

Stop playing publics and problem solved, almost 90% use the damn hardcore mood, load of crap, yet again play privates with skill players and no fkin hardcore and you'll be done

I dont want to offend you, but when i played HC on pam4 i've just felt like its all about camping with G3 on crossfire.

OMG go play Hardcore in pam4 mod then you wouldnt complain about the perks and also its true you have to be quicker but also when someone sprays in HC you just take your time and give him a headshot .
And wtf is with softcore 1 and a halft clip to kill a person ? and all the noobish stuff like how many nades you got ffs you should know how many you got not to have to read how many you got or the hub , and deagle is best pistol in HC if you knw how to use it.

lolz ^^ softcore sux, thats my meaning... i dont know you see bad on H/C cuz only removes HUD (nobody use that, even crosshair ^^) and increase bullet damage so you kill on 1-2hits, make a game faster not like in soft whare you killing them with whole magazine or with lucker's headshots ^^

Stalk.

Ps.: Sry for english. ^^

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Have you ever stopped to think why he cant handle it? jeez

What a crappy blog.
Get over yourself and stop playing on HardCore if you can't handle it.

and again...

noob

Then what the fuck was the point in your reply?

Why the fuck does this thread even exist?

The poster should get a clue, haha


Fucking hell what has humanity came to

TRUE

proves my point yet again

Shut up u mong

because i play for fun with my friends on the net means i have no skill?

i believe skill level is another word for high FPS and good network connection

i like to play for fun, and what i have noticed is that all the moaning comes from the normal mode "pr0" and "1337" players.

to that i say... get a life.

nessaja, your in a clan called =4Fun=, i think we know your skill level already. And HUD doesn't make a difference, i come from playing coduo and it's hardly different except for it helps noobs, you can hear where firing comes from anyway if your not retarded.

just goes to prove my point really.

noob.

A lot of whine about who is noob or not for a game(type) you only dislike :') (Perhaps a good advice: don't play it?)

I bet you are noob at pool! Or at ad fundum! Since COD4 doesn't require that kind of skill ;(

Playing HC means camping all the time spraying everywhere cuz u need just 1 hit 2 kill

well it seems u are all up your own arses.

i dont find it difficult to kill people in normal mode at all.

i kill quite fine in normal and hardcore.

i just find the fact you need HUD quite lame, and the fact you can run up to a guy and knife him while he is spraying an LMG into your chest quite shit.

but i forget... you are all "pro's"...

remove hud from normal mode and add a little bit more bullet damage (maybe not as much as hardcore) and you have a decent game.

i like a game where everyone weapon can be used, ive yet to see any of u say u use anything except an ak or for any of you to comment on your no breathing scoped rifle or comment on the HUD issue

in fact, im yet to see any of u make a decent comment...

Dude promod on cod waw is way more skill then cod4

a competitive game doesn't need to be realistic. i can go into a hardcore server, and i can play allah with my ak-u and spray u all to death, because one bullet is an instant kill. 3 hits with ak-u is not much, but just one is ridiculous. so stfu about hc. and go play with your toys

Thats true.. Only sprayguns @ cod4 : <

funny how HC players are the only ones to moan about how hard it is 2 kill ppl in softcore "OMG 3 bullets with a barret! an still ddnt die!" hummmm yes try aim plx

Totally dude :>

ppl who play hardcore are noobs, because tehy know no better, they join a random server and play,

they are noobs, jsut like ppl who play cod:waw LOL!

Hahahah hardcore 5 bullets. how is ur aim dude?
cause i use less then that on promod .
Ye skilled players on hc ye right we met the clan who was on the top of the hardcore ladder and we won with 23-3 on normal.
Hardcore players camp and they suck at aiming.

Clearly is high.

clearly has no clue

only lowbirds play HC, truth!

hardcore cod4 = for noeps
hardstyle = for pro's

r u for real lol

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normal mode = ak47, ak74u (ive yet to see a frag movie with anything but an ak47 with normal mode or "pro"mod)

hardcore mode = any gun u like

normal mode = take 3984023840923 bullets and still run away

hardcore mode = 5 bullets and dead

normal mode = HUD

hardcore mode = no HUD, if u need HUD, you are noob.

normal mode is for people who like to walk in the open and be able to run away and then use the HUD to figure out whats going on

hardcore mode is for people who want to be able to use any gun and play tactically in a team, coz there is no rediculous hud available

and this "pro"mod.... normal mode with no breathing sniper scope... so "pro" - give me a break

LOL there is no way to call hardcore skill mode or something like that, if i can see on cb man with heavy gun and deep penetration perk im getting sick like that was in pam4 now i dont know how it looks like, but im sure that scan is the best method to stop enemy:x

Omg you don't want a realistic game you want a good match game. And hardcore isnt. and then when you talk about realistic. Ye right il bet that a human with a good body armour dies on a pistol bullet in the stommack or a bullet in the foot

Nice blog, but state the obvious. Everyone knows hardcore players are terrible, and anyone with a brain plays promod/pam4. HC is simply designed for noobs than cannot land more than one bullet in a round, seriously after playing a HC scrim i nearly shot myself.. so bad, and all the players than play it are even worse.

CoD4 is a FPS game, "Call of Duty".

trolllllll

True dat

cod4 = low skilled game, the easiest in the cod series.
cod 1 > cod 2 > cod 4 in skill.

what is this "cod4" ?????

how to own hardcore players with this argument?

look at the activity of hardcore in any online gaming ladder.... o ya its shit, nobody plays it.

arguing that hardcore takes skill is just hilarious, if u honestly think softcore is spray and pray, its obviously you with the aim problem.

hardcore is for old people who still like to game.

hardcore rules simple as,lol

calou

Go play Q3 then

lawl, idd

lol noob had Stopping Power on HC.

Hardcore is for people who can't handle the game how its supposed to be played. Play promod and you'll see how much better softcore is than hardcore gg

omfg interpunction plz

What's new? Everyone knew it
Exept the HArdcoreplayer they sweer they're Pro but they're oblivious not , ANyway in ANy FPS if there is a HardCore or REal dmaage thing , it will be for the low x)

I laughed at the Banzai Japanese part

What's new? Everyone knew it
Exept the HArdcoreplayer they sweer they're Pro but they're oblivious not , ANyway in ANy FPS if there is a HardCore or REal dmaage thing , it will be for the low x)

I don't thinks so. Why? If you play hardcore its more real life. To play with a continu radar and weapon staticitcs and that kind of stuff is only anoing!

1 good hit and you ar dead, that life!

Wow ur aim must really suck. Cause upper body is 2 bullets and legs 3. 30 ammos haha u suck. Learn to aim you fucking hardcore noobs don't eaven say that hc is skill you fucking noobs go fuck urselves u fucking dumbasses hc is noob there are no good players at hardcore.

Tbh thats huge mistake hardcore only divided ppl in 2 armys . Hardcore unplayable for me

lol was a nice read

If you wanna be realistic maybe you could just join the army, go out to iraq, see if the hud is switched on out there....

Fuck cod4

Roger that, Hardcore is for good players not for noobs, cause i hate shooting 30 ammos of AK47 in your chest then you are on critical and lucky killing me. In real life you will stay alive after 10 or 20 bullets of AK47?? Nice joke
So msg to everyone here on discuss : TRY BE GOOD IN HARDCORE kill more, die lesser

lol you must be sleeping, CoD4 most played on tournaments.
you just weren't able to own there so it sux in your eyes.
OR you ain't able to buy a better computer then the wooden one.
CoD5 sux.

playing hc let's me own harder then on normal server.
You get too easily kills.
Playing hc is crap.
One shit is one kill with M9 there or sumthing xD

hc ownz. ppl just dont like it coz they get pwned on it?

lol

u

NGx2 is shit

[quote]enZ' ♥ wrote:
normal needs more skill instead people with no aim just spray and hoping to kill some one with 1 bullet out of 30..., and with normal you need more bullets, so more aim, so more skill

agree 100%, if u wanna be realistic go play paintball or something!

X2 xD

"and probably ya mother. (no offence meant)"

LMAO

only good thing in hc is lost of hud. should be in promod imo.

Oppinions and butts, something everyone has, not sure wich smells worse in this case......

normal needs more skill instead people with no aim just spray and hoping to kill some one with 1 bullet out of 30..., and with normal you need more bullets, so more aim, so more skill

glhf bb

lol mate, for a start playing HC on a public server is like playing any version of CoD on a public server, it's full of moaning noobs, hackers, glitchers, clippers, kids and probably ya mother. (no offence meant)

Playing HC in a match is completely different, where there is actually skill involved, espeicially on the larger maps with smaller teams.

quote = or pointlessly juggernaut (yes lads by the time the quicker regen kicks in your 6ft under) /quote
That comment makes no sense, as Juggernaught isn't a faster regen, IT LIFTS YOUR OVERALL HEALTH. If you sit and shoot someone on HC who has jugger and someone who doesn't it takes at least three times as long to kill them.

The point is if you get two teams who are very skilled at hardcore it can be an extremely hard and skillful game that is really enjoyable, yes there are complete HC noobs that play to spray (those guys need their GUID's taking away) but if it's trained on and the teams are really good then it takes on a new effect.
Personally I will play any gametype as long as I don't play hackers or moaning arseholes. lol.

To be honest, standard CoD4 servers I think are worse. I mean you can hit someone with a barret three times in the stomach and they just laugh at you and run over with a knife. It's complete BS that you can close range emtpy a clip of mp5 into someone (granted some miss) but they are still standing when they should of been down after the second bullet.

What I think is, is there should be a medium. Where the health isn't what is changed but rather the weapons. They should be made more realistic. If you are shooting a barret at someone they should die. If you are being pistol sniped from over 300m or whatever then the bullets should stick in ya kevlar till ya get your m4 out and blow em away. Basically standard is like arcade and HC is like you soldiers are nearly dead already.

Hardcore cod4 players are noob's = RIGHT
Hardcore cod5 players are noob's = RIGHT

interesting that you talk about public perks on a match site.

hardcore is shit end of conversation

HC > normal ^^
So cool when u hit a guy with 9327 bullets in the chest and he just comes to you and stabs you. That's totally bs.

Call of Duty is single-handedly destroying the gaming community!!

AHHH :| :O :| :'(

prat, grow up..

REALISM rocks !

But why take this time to tell your dislike about HC ?
Play it, or just DONT play it ...
Just like normal mode, i dont like it! SO i dont play it !
But see me taking time typing a story why ?

Its like driving a car, I love the mitsubishi lancer Evolution, but i drive a ford focus .. Hmz, wait, i go to the focus forums and tell my dislikes about that car.

your right ljay.... ErrLloyd your shit + your clan is gg bb


Rank: 786 (953 points) your stats LALLLLLLL!!

First of all, author is comparing hardcore public to a normal-mode league play - are you out of your mind or smth? Same thing I can say (as HC player) about normal-mode - I'm getting there and surviving is easier for me, ergo I'm killing more. The main difference between HC & non-HC is that in non-HC you have some mistake margin. In HC you don't - you are careless, you are dead. But I can't explain it to you because you know HC only from public servers, so any discussion and this blog entry is meanless.

This is Right... simple really.. i only play matches now.. fed up of public play... also.. yes its annoying with the perks, but in matches you only have stopping power, or extreme con, deep impact or slight of hand.
So go back into your little public non hardcore hole and stay there, HARDCORE IS REALISTIC, and therefore you cant make errors, otherwise you are dead. Like this Enclave dude was saying. everything is right with Hardcore, but everything si wrong with this blog and every comment here. INCLUDING MINE!

what a crap!!!

I agree! Can't stand HARDCORE servers because of all the limits HARDCORE has.

Thing is you dont shoot back so what happens when you get injured? well in a game you die....

in real life you might have the luck of getting draged out of combat and sruvive but in CQB like COD you wont be that lucky everytime... so yeah its more realistic.

Thing is you dont shoot back so what happens when you get injured? well in a game you die....

in real life you might have the luck of getting draged out of combat and sruvive but in CQB like COD you wont be that lucky everytime... so yeah its more realistic.

the only thing i dont get in SC is why a shot to the head doesnt kill instantly. headshot = shoulder shot? well, 2 chest shots to die..ye i get it.. but 2headshots to kill? ok its not HC but still, its stupid.

either way, cod4 is boring. 2/3months and shelf much.

Thing is you dont shoot back so what happens when you get injured? well in a game you die....

in real life you might have the luck of getting draged out of combat and sruvive but in CQB like COD you wont be that lucky everytime... so yeah its more realistic.

couldn't agree more, all points valid and very well summed up.

Your first mistake of the day was playing hardcore...

The only reason that peeps say that SOFTCORE and PROMOD is good is because most of the "top" clans play it if they all got in to HC you will all say its the best so all I can say play what feels right for you and DO NOT CARE for all the noobs who try to tell you the other way around. I play HC and wont ever touch promod I think its noob to have to shoot 4+ shots into someone to kill them and shooting someone with the first shot is pro to me it means you are the faster player not the one that can hold the trigger down and spray a guy down for a long period of time. I played COD5 today for the first time and I must say this is how COD4 should have been no laser weapons. The SMGs bounce all over the place on distans unlike COD4. Where a AK74u is a laser even at very long range. I hope that some of the better clans leaves "standard" and play HC in COD5 (not gonna happen but still) to show all the wannabe pros that HC is better then SC since it has more realism.

ahahaha Groin killer!

[quote]HV|Grubby wrote:
I'm a hardcore player myself, but recently I played softcore on public just to see what the difference was. Turned out the whole game style was different, but, when I actually looked at my score at the end, nothing really had changed. I did a little bit worse when I sniped, because I got a lot of tags ( I have to admit I often find myself aiming for the groin when I snipe, I don't know why tbh), but I did quite a lot better when I went with Ak47 and Ak74, mainly because I got naded less ( I love nade indicators XD).

So, at public at least, I have to say I didn't notice much of a skill difference tbh.

And as for playing Vacant on Hardcore the attacking side normally wins about 7-3 in my experience, and I used to get spammed a lot through walls (and on other maps too), but I don't anymore. Call it 'gamer sense' or something. Learning how to avoid getting wall spammed on Hardcore actually helps a lot when you play softcore (as I found out), as you become very conscious of spam spots and how to dodge out of the way of incoming fire.


Too Right m8 ^^ + all this damn shit is for fun and you take it soo serouis -.- be happy that they did SC for the SC players and the same to HC

The only reason that peeps say that SOFTCORE and PROMOD is good is because most of the "top" clans play it if they all got in to HC you will all say its the best so all I can say play what feels right for you and DO NOT CARE for all the noobs who try to tell you the other way around. I play HC and wont ever touch promod I think its noob to have to shoot 4+ shots into someone to kill them and shooting someone with the first shot is pro to me it means you are the faster player not the one that can hold the trigger down and spray a guy down for a long period of time. I played COD5 today for the first time and I must say this is how COD4 should have been no laser weapons. The SMGs bounce all over the place on distans unlike COD4. Where a AK74u is a laser even at very long range. I hope that some of the better clans leaves "standard" and play HC in COD5 (not gonna happen but still) to show all the wannabe pros that HC is better then SC since it has more realism.

In what way is it realistic to die from 1 shot in the finger? llololollloolloloololollol

N4T



U survive 2 shots from an ak-47 and 3 from long distance. And because hardcore players value their life more I can imagine they camp a lot more as well since u cant run anywhere cause then someone will just spray u down. TRY CROSSING A STREET AGAINST GOOD PLAYERS IN HARDCORE LOL even with smoke ure fucked.




LOL



lmao

tbh

A decent default player goes onto a decent HC public server, uses a silenced colt, comes top.

where as

A decent hardcore player goes onto a decent default public server uses a silenced colt and comes bottom.

thats not saying that hardcore players are noobs, thats saying that using a pistol is the same as using an AK, which is why HC is shit, and the "top teams" dont play it.

p.s public on either mode is terrible. ^o)

The only reason that peeps say that SOFTCORE and PROMOD is good is because most of the "top" clans play it if they all got in to HC you will all say its the best so all I can say play what feels right for you and DO NOT CARE for all the noobs who try to tell you the other way around. I play HC and wont ever touch promod I think its noob to have to shoot 4+ shots into someone to kill them and shooting someone with the first shot is pro to me it means you are the faster player not the one that can hold the trigger down and spray a guy down for a long period of time. I played COD5 today for the first time and I must say this is how COD4 should have been no laser weapons. The SMGs bounce all over the place on distans unlike COD4. Where a AK74u is a laser even at very long range. I hope that some of the better clans leaves "standard" and play HC in COD5 (not gonna happen but still) to show all the wannabe pros that HC is better then SC since it has more realism.

COD4 sucks and is a game for console noobs. Hardgaymode is for even bigger noobs.

nice topic, was wondering as well why ppl for gods sake use acog on a rifle just to mention one of the sad things of this game

ok just give my point of view on this. i might be wrong but that's just me then.

i come from Moh:aa Realism. if i play default there i lose to most top clans. but if they play vs me in realism most of them lose vs me. it's just what you are used to. same for cod4. i see hardcore as realism and promod as default. so yeah promod is alot harder for me. and yes with hardcore when i see some one first i probably win the fight. but it that so strange? we always want the games to be like the real thing. so having to hit a dude with more then 2 bullets is crap to me. if i hit him in the chest he should die period. hardcore players probably think the same. for the people who started promod this is annoying in wars. and yes you will probably lose vs a decent hardcore team in a hardcore match. we are used to go for the kill the instant we see you and promod gives you the extra second to respond.i see that cod4 has a higher activity in promod so i will probably go to play promod. but that's different to every game as moh:aa realism is way more active then default. so actually this bloq about people in hardcore servers being noob is imo a big joke.it's just different play styles.hardcore you won't try to run for the car for hiding like you would in promod cause here you are dead.

HC is for noobs.

Ya might be true but often HC official matches are just one huge camp fest where the guys with biggest patience win, which is one of the most boring ways to play any FPS. Normal mode at least offers you an opportunity to make mistakes, to take those risks, whether they will end up as a failure or as a great success. Thats what in the end makes FPS gaming most fun for me.

The *polish* HC player speaks rofl

First of all, author is comparing hardcore public to a normal-mode league play - are you out of your mind or smth? Same thing I can say (as HC player) about normal-mode - I'm getting there and surviving is easier for me, ergo I'm killing more. The main difference between HC & non-HC is that in non-HC you have some mistake margin. In HC you don't - you are careless, you are dead. But I can't explain it to you because you know HC only from public servers, so any discussion and this blog entry is meanless.

Sorry but, in which way should we compare your IQ to this blog? As a matter of fact an IQ level can change over periods and it's pretty obvious that you based your blog on your own opinion which can't be called intelligent imo.

If, 'I say if' you have an high IQ (you probably made it up but if it's true) then what's the point in having a high IQ when you didn't have a proper education, just based that on the crap you wrote in this blog cause any reasonable person wouldn't waste their time writing this, neither would they brag about their IQ.

Anyway if you're point was being a comedian then you can just forget everything I said cause you really did make me laugh. Aah kids :')

This reminds me of the good old UT "normal weapons vs instagib" whines. Yes, something is always more skilled, but people hardly play something just because it takes more skill than the other game. It's a sum of many things.

Either way, no matter how easy it is to get into something, it always takes skill to master it. No matter which game or mod.

Meh Cod4, got bored of it after a couple of months and went back to BF2.

That pissbag was designed for consoles with it's small maps and rewards, and the prestige mode which PC didn't even get. The websites and magazines should have pointed out this imbalance so that PC gamers could boycott this bullshit.

don`t know why you flame on this blog so much, just play whatever is fun for you, every "gametyp" on every game has it flaws, go play peggle extreme if you want to show real skill !!!!

less players playing => less competition => easier to be good

There are 15 times more active teams playing "normal" than hc and they play 25 times more matches than their hardcore counterparts.

cod players are all n00bs-because game is 2 slow...any med wolf skilled player can own cod high skilled player

ur a noob...

lol, funny thing, I never really eat bananas...

classic penis envy

do you also cry uncontrollably at the sight of a banana? :>

I'm a hardcore player myself, but recently I played softcore on public just to see what the difference was. Turned out the whole game style was different, but, when I actually looked at my score at the end, nothing really had changed. I did a little bit worse when I sniped, because I got a lot of tags ( I have to admit I often find myself aiming for the groin when I snipe, I don't know why tbh), but I did quite a lot better when I went with Ak47 and Ak74, mainly because I got naded less ( I love nade indicators XD).

So, at public at least, I have to say I didn't notice much of a skill difference tbh.

And as for playing Vacant on Hardcore the attacking side normally wins about 7-3 in my experience, and I used to get spammed a lot through walls (and on other maps too), but I don't anymore. Call it 'gamer sense' or something. Learning how to avoid getting wall spammed on Hardcore actually helps a lot when you play softcore (as I found out), as you become very conscious of spam spots and how to dodge out of the way of incoming fire.

W/E COD4 SUCK MONKEYS

there is some logic in it but thats only when you look it from one side. the defender got the same advantages.....
and then the rounds switch at 10:0 then you got another 10 rounds of fun :P.... gaming is fun right.... maybe you lads take it al far to serious.
remember: gaming is fun, and not everyone thinks the same.
that means this is a total idiot topic whit idiot posts (incl my posts)

for fun(wars) you can always contact me:P

cya

Im sure any good hardcore player is as good as a normal mode player. After all hardcore players value their own life a hell of a lot more than a normal player that can take 4 shots from an ak47 and keep on shooting.
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ePic pHail...
anyway, @ normal mode 2 shots are quite enough, 3 shots for much bigger distances and no upper torso/head hits.
@ hc, 1 ak shot thru the whole map and it's quite enough.
I don't really know how do people play maps like vacant @ hc
attack =>
1 guy goes to watch the right corridor cross doors and just spray it 1 by 1 shot, maybe he can even take another guy just for cover...
another guy gets to the other side and sprays thru the lil' room in the back of the hangar, maybe another one to spray the corner to be sure they won't get a nade.
1 more guy fakes plants, until the opponent has no nades and plants... going like this the whole game and u got a 10:0 like nothing
on the other side, u just keep on geek nades cuz' they won't let u out, or u smoke the hell of the corridors and then run out.

not TOO MANY options =]

forgot something 5th cbhc ladder....

AMEN to that!

what an egotistical self gratifying blog post.

Who gives you the right to classify all hardcore players as noobs.

Im sure any good hardcore player is as good as a normal mode player. After all hardcore players value their own life a hell of a lot more than a normal player that can take 4 shots from an ak47 and keep on shooting.

Fuck sake man... get a fucking grip .

I play hardcore pubs, and Normal for competitive play and i am just as good at both, infact playin hardcore pubs has improved my gamesense for normal mode.

I really really laughed my fucking arse of at this lame attempt to belittle other gamers.

FUCK TARD

you'd think sumone with 148 iq would know the difference between "then" and "than". For example, judging by the comment in caps, your IQ is less than 148. Quite alot less...

If you had aim you'd be able to kill sum1 in SC without letting them run away. Bottom line is HC is for noobs who cant aim so they spray and hope 1 bullet hits and woohoo I have a kill. What the point in having any of the weaps then might as well all run round with pistols that have 2 bullet clips. Cod4 itself is noob friendly enough never mind HC mode

realistic and annoying LOL

lol @ vacuum, thanks for the lesson

I think HC en SC are just 2 different things, it's like comparing apples with pears. I see HC as more of a aim practice on publics and SC / PRomod / pam as tournament thing.

You can say about both HC and SC the same things, like SC is for noobs, because you will get the change to react and survive a AK47 salvo, even when you had three hits.

And HC is for noobs because you can shoot 7 people through a wall?? for me that also realism. (although it was a noob server, because on what normal server 7 people will sit behind eachother hehe, you vacuum??)

Stop with putting things in boxes people and just play the style you like without whining. Because whining is for noob's errrmmm... noobs

I play hardcore because its just more realistic. Getting 5 bullets to the chest and keep hopping around isnt.

Being 'good' or 'better' are two different things.

A 'bad' player can beat another 'bad' player and yet both can be not 'good'.

Your description of 'being good' is wrong.

Lol my Iq makes me less able to articulate what I am saying. That makes no sense, ok my leet speak and lack of care fucks me up, but Iq has nothing to do with it.

2 points

1) Your IQ is 148 -> that makes you weird, you can't think straight and you can't communicate in a normal way.

2) Does a good aim make you a good player ? No, you are a good player when you are better than an other player.
You can camp, spray, anything but when you kill someone, no matter how, you're better

hardcore sucks and the ladder most of all. It's best to keep the HC noobs on the console like xbox 360 and ps3

it's so evident, why post this wall of text to say something well known?

pretty much like default / realism in mohaa...
no news here.

100% RIGHT ErrLloyd

lol HARDCORE

ErrLloyd why dont your clan join the Hardcore laddar and see how you do? as hardcore clans play softcore laddars for fun. if what your saying is true your clan would be first in the hardcore laddar.

u blog about playing public in cod4.. nice

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It actually seems to work... bad mouth cod4 players and you get a hot blog at CB lol oh well

+ 1 for u mate, hardcore is just spraying through every wall in the hope you hit something. And hardcore is also camping to the max becouse if you walk a little you die becouse of some naab spraying

your a perfect example, 700 in SD ladder, 1200 in Hardcore ladder.

I should Make Softcore Cod4 Players are noobs as a blog lol then i wanna see how many comments there will be :P

Cry me a river bb.

uhuh

erlloyd, are you noob??? you just talking shit. every pub is shit. to mutch perks... why you just dont play the sims and you can make things your way. dont bore us whit your crap.

What works for one does not necessarily work for the other. Some might like the G3 more than the M4, big deal. It's mostly based on previous results anyway. Ofcourse there are always weapons that are more powerfull than others, but still i can imagine someone that feels familiar with a slightly less powerfull weapon taking it over a more powerfull less familiar weapon.

As for perks, yeah there are alot of "not-well-thought-out-perk" choices in HC mode by players. Big deal they'll realise it sooner or later, or not at all. Their loss your gain?

HC vs normal comparison is just a pointless discussion. Yes you get killed faster by less experienced players but you also kill them faster. Yes you take longer to die in normal, but you take longer to kill aswell. In my opinion both pretty much even eachother out. HC is easier to get "into", i agree there. You need less skill in getting kills but more skill in staying alive, and lets face it everyone that starts out on a multiplayer game will want one thing: kills. In normal its just vice versa if you ask me, with the skill in kill vs skill in survival.

i forgot, wars dont have that number of players but have the other shit stuff like attachements and perks..

i forgot, wars dont have that number of players but have the other shit stuff like attachements and perks..

PLaying hardcore its just lame. Hardcore Mode makes everything more confuse and the fact is that most of the hardcore pubs has a max players capacity like 30 and 40 wich means u dia a lot of times cause a enemy player just spawned in your back...

hardcore
end of the line

You only say I am boasting because its high, you don't accuse ecko of boasting cause his is average. There is no boast, the reason I say its certified is because it was done by a psychologist not a website.

Yeah public in Gen is easy, but the point stands Colt = G3 ?

Heh, since you boast about your IQ, I bet you¨ve made it out, because reasonable man wouldn't boast about his high IQ even if he would get insulted by somebody about it.

But... words like noobs, can't aim and alike are insult for sure. We played a couple of good softcore clans and beat them to the ground, because they just couldn't understand that they die so quickly. I could say the same as you about softcore, when I come there, I feel like immortal, I can't die. I really try to get into crowdy part of map and I'm taking no serious cover and still I'm alive and I kill people, it takes just minimum covering of myself... My point is, if you play on public, you surely can think it is easy, because public is full of lames, every fine player must see every public as easy thing to lead...

So... I explainded myself and I'm now done with this conversation, because it gives me nothing, so the blog itself.

Farewell

The authors iq is 148 and certified, and I didn't really insult anyone other then stating the standard is lower. The standard of cricket played in the United States is lower then England. OH SHIT I JUST INSULTED ALL AMERICANS, I AM GOING TO GET NUKED BY THEIR PEA BRAINED TRIGGER HAPPY HALF ASSED TEXAN PRESIDENT

really? no you wouldnt, stop lying.

LooooL, and you are boast about THAT? Hehehehe... I just don't like people, who have to insult everyone else... The author did and you did as well... And I'd rather talk like 90 years old than like 7 years old...

stop talking as if 90 years old, and my IQ is 112, bitch lol

Right, poor inteligence was shown... I suggest everybody with IQ less than 50 to not reply to anything. So Ecko, please, be so good and try to not reply to anything, it is only humiliation for you.

fag..

Sorry, but I can't help it, the author is just dull, nothing more. So called progamer or whatever has not anything to do, so he must offence somebody, and who is better, than clans which can beat so called progamers in some CoD4 mod (yes, I talk about HC) because they are not used to get one shot - one kill, they are just spreyers.

I don't attack softcore players, I'm not that kind of person, who would have some ego problems and must solve them like you do, but you clearly are.

Goodbye.

lol

as i remember 2-3 hits still enough in normal game if u are not blind

?sad

ERICKJZ HACK (c) ArroW.?!

lol whine

So dont play Hardcore and let the HC players play their game.

ye when you miss with like 123112451346544 of them

ye when you miss with like 123112451346544 of them

haha...NO BUTTER!

normal game mode takes you 123112451346546 hits to kill someone...yeah that's more better...not

your grammar are noob's

I remember a ut2004 2on2 being played a while ago on 1337 wednesdays (redeye's show) between 2 instagib players and 2 nw pro's. they played 1 map instagib capture the flag, and 1 map TAM (which is basicly team deathmatch but you dont need to know the timing/locations of items/weapons).

On the first map (ictf) the nw pro's got completely raped, there even was a ludacris-cap. On the TAM map the nw players won pretty big aswell but a little less convincing then the ictf as i remember.

My point is, you cant compare apples and pears, and everybody knows the average skill on publics is very low, people dont play pubs to be competative. That seems a hard thing to understand for some people.

Well CoD4 HC is kinda same as UT99 iCTF.

But still I think iCTF needed more skills teamwise and in terms of personal movement+aim than CoD4 HC needs.

And I truly believe that CoD4-only-pros would have hard time being high skilled in lots of other 1st person shooters, but pros from lots of other games have very little difficulties in being semi-pros in CoD4.

But, every game has it's group of supporters. This will be a never-ending-loop and debate.

One Man's Rubbish Is Another Mans Treasure.

go play your shit mohaa game looser

This was the biggest nerd "blog entry" I have ever seen, I fell asleep to my own laughter after reading the first 7 rows.
Who cares if someone uses a weapon or not, or an attachment, omfg. you can get owned by any weapon @ any attachment by any person at any time. does it matter? NO, just loose it and get a grip, what's all this ultra-nerd-perk crap, like who gives a shit about the perk classes? That other post called "Lack of skill in todays shooters" is so fucking owning the guy who wrote this useless hardcore blog.



HAHAHAH this guy is even more funny, I mean - GET OUT OF PUBERTY BEFORE PLAYING ONLINE GAMES?

hi teeneger , i'm hardcore player

you want play with me on normalor promod ladder ?

you like lost ? you suck low

cu kid

Well ain't that just pathetic? Instead of praising yourself to be some god or something go take english lessons, and yeah hardcore is for noobs only tbh cause of the fact when you said they need faster aim.. Well they don't cause as you said they spray as shit and they always camp. Cause who doesn't love to go into a hc server and then when you try to take a step someone is shooting your legs off when they are lying behind a desk for 20minutes until the map changes, then they take a new nerd spot. Nice blog btw..

Hardcore players are noobs?

Yup.

Hi Turk, if I am still playing this when I am your age, legalize suicide.

HIGH FIVE!!! (c) Borat

hi teeneger , i'm hardcore player

you want play with me on normalor promod ladder ?

you like lost ? you suck low

cu kid

ye had a big laugh at this guy , laughing about ppl playing hardcore but having 800 pts. Selfownage?

we noobs lol, if a softcore team plays a hardcore team they lose so its both ways m8

We are also second in sabotage and not to bothered about SD so much, but I never said I was high skilled, or pro, and in my other blogs you will notice I refer to myself as low-med or med (which I am). The rest of your comment really makes sense.

I may not be amazing but I know a lot about the game and tbh your not amazing either 1,100 points in promod tbh we could probably get that pretty easily.

I noticed the same thing in HaloPC.

People were always saying that you needed to have much better reactions and aim to get the kill in no shield games, despite the fact that in no shield games you had no incentive to go for the headshot and invariably whoever saw the enemy first got the kill.

its a game just have fun, its just what you prefer and i don't find any fun in using full mag to kill someone in softcore its like fighting ppl who are all on lsd

tbh, why are u talking like a pro in ur blog about noobs in hardcore and they totally suck in normal pam4 ladders, u suck aswell at pam4 with 800 points. tbh HC is low and we only use it to have a ladder at cb. its lame but it looks nice

hardcore is just for huge noobs. just check if they play search and destroy normal mode then you see how chanceless they are

Right in some ways I think you take my blogs far to seriously, I naturally exaggerate most things I say. Maybe cause I am Irish. This was actually stated in the other blogs.

As for thinking it out, I was never much of a guy for word webs, but it kinda makes me lol that your answer was pretty much better thought out than the blog was.

If you like HC that's fine, but what my blog states remains true, on average in a match half HC and half default between any random 5 default players and any random 5 HC players the default ones would win most of the time.

There is a difference. Different games have different rules and game play by design. Your blog isnt well written, uses bad arguments, lacks logic and isnt perticularly well thought out by design of what the words you wrote mean. That I can comment on.


Take the UT and COD series. If you play UT like you play COD you will be called a camper, if you play COD like you play UT you will be called a bunny hopper (and die :P)

You can compare playability, amount of bugs/glitches, anticheat measures, competative scene etc. and weapon balance (problem in HC I admit) regardless of the game.

IMO you cant however say 'this is noob' and 'this is pro', if I achive the objective of the game and you dont, I win. If I out camped you in UT or bunny hopped you to death in COD I am higher skilled then you, its as simple as that.

My problem is that people seem to have a pre-set idea of 'how to play games' and if you dont conform you are a 'noob', regardless of how well you do by the games rules.

I play HC TDM/DM, I dont play CODFOUR competativly. I like the realisim that I can shoot one shot and get a kill with any gun, its a matter of taste. But in HC everyone has the same options, just as in non-HC, just as in UT, just as in any other game.

All I read in these 'everyone is a noob but me' blogs is that some people cant or refuse to adapt and should in all honorsty stick to the 7 year old games they are comfortable with.

ASDASDASDASD

Meh I wanted to blog tbh this was just a topic to blog about.

You read a blog, you made some observations was it really worth commenting about ?

One blog isn't better than anther what's with all these high and mighty comment posters passing judgement left right and centre?

...

cod4 itself= noobfest shit game

idd, hail cod1,2 and hopefully 5

COD4 is shite.

You went on to a HC server and made some observations, its really not worth blogging about.

One game isnt better then another, its a matter of taste. It's like saying cars are better then toasters.

Whats with this wave of 'high and mighty' 'pro' players passing out judgement left, right and center?

I play cod4... and I have a life

Same with MoH:AA realism

Yes, when i'm playing on hardcore, i always get another sidearm then the D.Eagle. Simply because any gun can kill.

Hardcore foces way more on being smart, then being skilled. The first one to spot his target is usually the one who survives the fight.

It could be possessive. It's not though your right.

HC is low

Im a hardcore player and what can I say...

SAD BAD TRUE!

nothing new to me but prepare for noobs saying "ppl who don´t play hardcore have no skill" . Biggest laugh ever. Just look at theladder activity. Whocares about hardcore, remember a public in the beginning where i killed 7 ppl through a wall on citystreets with 1 ak magazine. I won´t tell what I think about hc because i did it so often before . At least i could convince some ppl that hardcore is bullcrap and they actually came to normal mode + competitive play and some of em laugh about themselves when i remind them that they were hardcoreplayers.

And btw it´s "noobs" not "noob´s" . It´s plural