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Reply | Ok we were supposed to play against SOM last tuesday. The starting time was 21:30. So we both clans should have had ppl on mirc 1 hour before the war, or 30 mins before the war. Because of connection problems we could join MIRC around 20:00 so 30 mins before the start time. TO be exact, i was the first who joined MIRC at 20:01 and 3 other ppl joined in the next 5 mins. Altogether SOM had 2 ppl on mirc when trauma had 4.
SO here comes the problem, that SOM had no server(they had the time before).
Rule says:
If one clan has not a single representative present 30 minutes before the start, then the other clan may immediately decide on the server. This clan is free to change its server decision later on if the opponent has shown up.
SOM had no server. When we joined, we asked for IP to check, they didn answer at all. When we found out they dont have, we immediately offered our server to play. Since they refused to respond to our questions for 20 mins, it happened 10-15 mins before the start time.
At the 21:30 we had 4 ppl on MIRC, SOM had 2. We had our 5th too, but he didnt join mirc. SOM said that, becasue we werent on MIRC 30 mins before the match, they want cancel. They were referring to the quoted rule above. Since they didnt tell us they dont have server, thats the only reason we didnt tell them earlier.
They claim that, because we werent on the server 30 mins before, they have the right to pick the server. But in this case, we had only 1 server to play on. The rule says nothing about our case, what happens when the clan didnt show up 30 min before, when they join, they have the server to play the war on, but the other clan refuses, what happens. IMO the war must be played on the avaible server.
On MIRC we had Maxx^ as a referee. He asked both clans several times if they had 5 ppl. trauma always replied, yes they had, but SOM never replied. Its an obvious proof with claiming cancel they wanted to avoid forfeit loss due to not enough number of players to play.
Maxx^ said he is going to proove everything. U can ask him for confirmaton.
We claim a no show/forfeit win for trauma.
Thanks in advance,
cudar |
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Reply | Oke long story...
First of all I would like to state the fact that they were to late on mIrc while we had a representative of us in mIrc on time. It is true that we didn't have a server while we had one before. We couldn't start up our gh server.
Since nobody had a server we suggested to reschedule the war asap but they declined. Weird because there was no server to play on. After some time, seven minutes before the wartime (21:23) they gave us the ip of a server, an hungarian one. Everyone can understand that such a server is far from neutral.
Because of the time we thought it was to late to start testing and because they joined on mIrc to late we suggested one more time to reschedule.
Trauma claims that they were with 4 people of their clan on mIrc while they had only 2, same as we did. Some more information trauma says ain't true aswell.
We never claimed a cancel match, you can't even cancel one in a cup. Therefore we would like to reschedule the war to finally play a decent cupwar.
The decision is up to the cupsupervisor(s).
With regards,
|SoM|^ThaMaster |
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RE:#trauma vs SOM
- Max^ - Max^ - Sun 18 Nov 21:11
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Reply | i was supposed to admin this war... found rather boring that SoM didnt answer on irc until like 10 minutes before the war : We could know earlier we don't have server to play on... btw even 10 minutes before the war I think it is possible to find a neutral server (btw im french and got 50 on eye on the trauma hungarian server but that's not very important..) ? even if we would start 5 or 10 minutes late isn't it preferable than rescheduling once more ? If u really wanted (or/and could?) play I think it was quite easily possible...
I'm glad to see u'r more polite on the cup forum than on irc though... I tried to get why SoM didn't want to play; I got no answer... When I tried to get them to play the war i got "learn rules" answers style...
I'm rather on trauma side cuz SoM didn't look motivated at all to play this war...
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Reply | I'm rather on trauma side cuz SoM didn't look motivated at all to play this war...
That's kinda obvious. You implying we are unpolite on IRC yet you fail to mention that #trauma was abusive towards our members with words like dumbo. That language is certainly not needed and if you are complaining about our behaviour you certainly could have told that also. We certainly weren't abbusive.
Not sure how trauma can demand a forfeit cause:
a. They were 31 mins to late on IRC
b. They had a server 7 minutes before matchtime
c. Abusive behaviour
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Reply | Ur clanleader called Hungary a 3rd world country in a negative way its nacionalism if not racism. its even worst than abusing. Ohh btw, do u know what dumbo means? I think u dont, u know school english is not enough in life. Dumbo is actually an even more lighter form of silly. Do u know what silly means? Ask ur teacher pls. Dumbo is ususally told to young children. Unless u r 7 yrs old u shouldnt feel abused.
Tell me any other abusive words i used.
31 mins. For god's sake, the famous SOM fair play, we late for 1 minutes. Ur unfair attitude is so obvious, u didnt have 5 players to play.
Dont start telling untrue things like we had only 2 ppl on mirc when we had 4!
U did not tell us anything when we joined mirc, u didnt even say "Hi" U were silent until 11 mins before the start time. Even for this u deserve a forfeit loss, for ignoring ur oppoent all the time. |
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Reply | I exactly know what dumbo means. I suggest you should take a look in the dictionary next time.
dum·bo
–noun
1. a stupid person: a class full of dumbos.
That language is not needed and please no need to brag about any form of education. I got the highest possible degree in Holland wich is rated far higher then the education in Hungary. No bad word about Hungary btw cause I had my greatest vacation back there 
We are not unfair about that 1 minute but you are. You demand a forfeit while we still want to play that war in a fair way. |
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Reply | Im sorry ThaMaster, but as far as i remember u werent on MIRC, unless u were using a nick thats not in SOM's player list.
U are right, when i said cancel i meant reschedule the match. We are bored in gathering our players for the 3 rd time, when u even dont take the war as seriously to answer ur opponent on MIRC.
U misunderstood me, i mean TRAUMA had 4 players in mirc when SOM had 2. Please explain me the things those r untrue.
Dont u find it weird to state our HUN server was not neutral, when u didnt even went on to test it?
When we joined MIRC, we immediately asked for server details. Since u didnt reply to any of our questions until 10 mins the start of the match, we couldnt get a server earlier. If u did reply us, we could give u server to test like 25 mins befire the match start. Your negative behavior is a clear evidence for trying to avoid playing due to insufficent number pf players.
As i mentioned above, trauma claims a no show/forfeit win, because SOM refused to play a war that could be played.
Sincerely,
cudar |
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Reply | First of all you are right that I wasn't on mIrc. The reason of that was because my internet connection got terminated that week so I couldn't attend. I got this information from the guys of SoM who were in the mIrc channel.
They said that there were in total 5 guys in the mIrc channel, 2 from trauma, 2 from SoM and the admin. An hungarian server would be as neutral as a dutch server would be for your guys, not neutral at all.
Also did they say that they said from the start there was no server. Since you guys came up with a server to late for our taste we said we would like to reschedule since we couldn't handle much delay at all. It clearly disturbs me saying we have a negative behaviour while we just want to play a clean and fair cupwar.
I think it would be better if nobody will post here to avoid repeating both story's from different sides. Let the supervisor(s) decide what will happen with this war.
With regards,
|SoM|^ThaMaster |
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Reply | | If both teams agree the match can be rescheduled BEFORE 25 November. |
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Reply | | As said before we would gladly reschedule the match. |
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Reply | | once we used WC thats ok. but now they want to reschedule the match for the 2nd time. we still claim a no show for trauma |
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Reply | | so? whats the verdict? |
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Reply | | noshow win for trauma. |
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