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Reply | The time has come that we bring back the old rule that we will ban players who re-add returning while banned player(s)[in the future rwb] to their clan.
This is important to decrease the amount of rwb players, which is huge now. So from now if any player will be busted for this, he will be forwarded for ban.
From now each clan has 2 weeks to remove the returning while banned players from their profile, and then we will start banning for that, even the re-adding happened in the past.
Let's see an example how this stuff looks like:
- there's a player, let's call him 'A' in the clan called 'Z'
- player 'A' gets ban and returns as player 'B'
- player 'B' will be added to clan 'Z'
In this case the guy who re-added him into clan 'Z', gets ban for re-adding rwb player to the clan.
*We won't ban players who re-added rwb players in the past and the rwb player already got busted, that would be just senseless, as they didn't know about the changes.
*Players who get ban during the following 2 weeks are not exception of this rule, even they are being added during this period, so in one sentence: there is no escape from now for returning while banned players, and re-adding them is equal to a ban. |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- lOWIK - lOWIK - Wed 21 Jul 08:19
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Reply | Fucking rule for really kill cod1 
I mean : You ban always clean players and the haxor player could continu to play.
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Reply | I'm totaly with lOWIK, You are killing CoD1.
GJ. You want less noshow in SummerCup/OpenCup ? Just stop ban clean players and try to ban real cheaters to make the game more interresting to maybe get back new players.
There is still cheaters who'r using their cheats while you ban clean players.
Totaly useless.
And you would tell us again, you want make CoD1 Alive. Ofc...
Maybe I've got a shit english, but everyone can understand what I mean.
Nice admin. vCoD got the biggest lame/shit community. Enjoy g33ks.
And cu COD1. |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- pinki - CDW  - Sun 15 Aug 04:08
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Reply | All CoDs got shit community, there a lots cheaters, kids etc., but its not admin's fault rather.
lOWIK was doing good thing, he was trying ban nervvv and ogr, cheaters and hes banned now  |
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Reply | Lowik had 6 months ban at the beginning, which would ended in january 2010, but he returned plenty of times, because he couldn't wait that.
Even nerv and his mates were hacking and got banned after a while, the pbshots were FAKED by Lowik. Your point is to stop banning clean players, and i agree with you on that.
But imagine, he did it against nerv, and he could have done it also against you after a lost match. I do not protect cheaters, but we should think of both sides of the coin, not just one.
For stopping cheaters we are bringing in new rules to CoD1, the democrew steps to new level, we are handling cases more flexible i think, so i do not really get your point of killing the CoD1 community. |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- serbol - noblesS - Sun 24 Oct 01:17
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Reply | | oGr was clean player. pity that everyone think that he hacked. |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- SLOWPOKE* - poké - Wed 18 Aug 00:55
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Reply | It's well over the time you'd ban RWB cheaters, and marre and hell cod2 are still here :'(
I started to search for rwb players yesterday, and also checked all the bans on PBBans from summer, and it seems there are lot of returning while banned players.
So, i won't request ban for returning while banned from now, and will start it on [b]Monday[b], but then we will ban the player who has re-added the rwb player to the clan, even during this plus period, but not in the past.
So can we have a list of who you banned (you said you had done research, and found some evidence for rwb somewhere?) |
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Reply | We can ban only if there's solid proof for being a returning while banned player.
About the bans we cannot igve you more information, but you can be sure, we ( dream and me ) will do our best to catch as much rwb players we can. |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- SLOWPOKE* - poké - Wed 18 Aug 03:54
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Reply | In that case, am I allowed to wonder why a cod2 investigation is taking so long?
I'm talking about this match: http://clanbase.ggl.com/warinfo.php?wid=10141672
The infamous HELL cod2 comes in owning eSuba 21-6, taking screenshots in the air, and i think it's pretty damn decent proof, and this match was played almost 2 months ago
If the CoD2 admins don't wanna ban him, can't the cod1 admins do it then?
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Reply | | 22 days gap is huge, he cannot get ban, except you can proove it's a static IP. |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- SLOWPOKE* - poké - Wed 18 Aug 16:27
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Reply | | okay, fair enough answer |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- lOWIK - lOWIK - Tue 24 Aug 10:38
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Reply | Homa why are you usually defending cheaters ! Cod1 is dead now. I really don't care now but YOU killed it with your repeat's ban... You said I'm pently rwb, ok but if you didn't BAN me at the start I didn't try to make any come back. That's sure I came back with : Lowik, wasn't difficult to ban me. Cause i'm not stupid haxor who wants to come back with stupid different nick, I wanted to conserve my real nick. All players know me with my REAL nick.
But never mind, you're retard about this one. Check all topics, they are always against you. When the community's talking about you, they're saying (and me too) : Do you know homa ? Ah, yeah, the stupid young .hu admin on clanbase ^^ But you understand nothing about the rule cause you didn't make enough good team to understand the gameplay.
After that, you're in the crew of clanbase, GOOD, but I'm remmbering when you haxed in 1v1 cb tdm when you hosted YOUR server ^^ But I think it's to late to post it cause you are admin ? lol
That's nice too see we could become admin and we got an haxor past !
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- lOWIK - lOWIK - Tue 24 Aug 10:44
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Reply | Oh yeah and I forgot the MUTLI ACCOUNT. Don't you remember your old account : smile. Lol So you are admin and you got 2 accounts.
WASN'T IT A VIOLATION ? |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- lOWIK - lOWIK - Tue 24 Aug 10:48
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Reply | You destroyed all the good team and all the CLEAN players. As xav don't you remember ? We were the most active 2v2 clan and the most clean too. You destroyed too kraz (the switzerland player), dannn from vital...
You just become the best POLIZEI admin ^^ But try to get this job in REAL life and could you stop your sanction.
2030 : Homa is still an admin on clanbase, he started to ban in 2009, nowadays he is the alone player on clanbase cause he kicked all players ^^ |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- homa - SAVARIA - Tue 24 Aug 23:24
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Reply | Well, let's go point to point:
- i am not defending cheaters, maybe you could discover it since that i'm admin there are more bans, and there's a more stable democrew
- you got banned (not by me anyways, but that's not the point) for faking pbss, for 6 months and it's your OWN fault that you returned and got busted for that. Oke, 6 months is not a short period, but isn't it better than 120 months?
- About checking the topics, i can just say that noone is oke for everyone. Once you close a conflict, the clan who lost it will calk you dumbass, idiot, corrupt etc.
This is things were going in the past aswell, and will run in the future, but atleast i do not delete these posts where i'm getting abused. You can check CoD2 and CoD4, there these 'dumbass, corrupt admin' topics/comments are removed.
- In the past i hosted my own server, yes. Where's the problem with it with a decent connection? There's no rule which i violated with it, the server was streaming to GV,PBBans, GGC, and had a banlist, merged from all the anti-cheat sites. Even Godrik said it's a stable server. About hacking, i dunno what you mean. I could come up with the 'show proof', like hackers do usually, but i guess that's pointless.
- I tried to help xav appealing his ban, but he returned instead of waiting that period, so there was nothing more to do. I talked to GV and CB admins plenty of times about his case.
2030: Well, hopefully i will have a wife, some lovely children, house, car, work and i will be happy. If i won't have all of these things or neither of them, i will search something that makes me happy, as every bad thing has a positive side. |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- lOWIK - lOWIK - Wed 25 Aug 01:50
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Reply | | homa, point of view.... WE REALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR FUTUR LIFE ^^ |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- lOWIK - lOWIK - Wed 25 Aug 09:09
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Reply | | homa do you want to do a very good action about the vcod community ? Try to unban all clear players and you could reach to reborn cod1 ^^ thx anyway |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- homa - SAVARIA - Thu 26 Aug 03:59
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Reply | | What if you would stop whining and spamming. You are banned by your OWN fault. |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- lOWIK - lOWIK - Thu 26 Aug 17:14
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Reply | | no no by cb admin from cod1 ! If you didn't ban me at the start for nothing i didn't try to come back. |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- aRT1 - g - Thu 26 Aug 18:23
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Reply | Falsifying evidence means that its YOU who tried to ban someone else for nothing...
Its not SUPERVISORS who BANS PLAYERS... They just follow the rules and send all the info to C&A Admins.
Supervisors CANT MAKE THE DECISION ABOUT BANS or ANY OTHER by their own feelings. They just handle the conflict and supervise the cups/ladders by rules.
Dont really care but after I was banned for demo in CoD4... I waited till my appeals get handled and DIDNT try to make a new account even tho I didnt cheat and that was not fair. Since its only a game it wouldnt kill You to stop playing for a while...
Im not Homas lover, in fact few times before lamed him at forum or at comments but at least I know that. You should just chill... You can blame him for many things but if You try to use pure logic... its only Your fault for ending up like this. Besides he did some good things for the community lately...
And if You want to come back - change IP and get a new CDkey like all the others  ... Doubt anyone would wait 20 years till the ban lift... And its probably the most funny ban case after all those returns.
Think those posts should be deleted. |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- lOWIK - lOWIK - Fri 27 Aug 18:27
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Reply | | If I wanted explaination I will /q you. But I really don't care about your point of view about this subject... |
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Reply | | Just ignore the guy, he's been whining about the same thing over and over again for the past year and blaming the admins. I guess he has difficulty understanding the fact that CB don't only suspend players for cheating, but also abuse (falsifying evidence is a pretty serious offense, especially if you think about the consequences). It was only for 6 months, but then he returned like 10 times, digging himself his own hole :> |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- duku - subson!c - Sun 29 Aug 01:20
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Reply | | yea but CB has pretty gay rules, sorry dream. |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- Grievous - reno  - Sun 29 Aug 08:51
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Reply | knowing the rules and following them provides u of not getting punished... no punishment, no whine
its that easy |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- lOWIK - lOWIK - Sun 29 Aug 18:27
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Reply | dream : Falsyfing evidence isn't an OFFENSE if the guy who i have faked his pbss was really haxing. But you didn't want to know... You banned me... One month later he get busted for WH... And i'm banned until 2030 cause Yeh in fact i wanted to back, cause I play especially at clanbase in COD1 cause it is the ALONE competition on cod1...
Dream & Home the best 2v2 team in admin as cod1 scene has ever seen...
You are blamed and insulted by players... Just try to think why... You ban for nothing and it isn't the first time i see this blame on forum |
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Reply | This is the really last time i even read your post lOWIK. I reply last time aswell to your whine, as ignoring is the only way to stop it.
Yes, he got banned for cheating, but that doesn't change the fact that you edited a pbshot to make him more suspicious. It's clearly stated in the Cheat and Abuse Policy that we award it with a suspension. Same as in the law, if you create and show a fake evidence, you will be punished for it. I am not learning for being a lawyer, so i do not know the exact consequences, but if you are interested i am sure you can google it.
You know, if you accuse someone, you ought to have a valid evidence, otherwise your accusation will seem to be a joke/tale.
This applies to every path of the life. You can say someone has stolen your bag, but without evidence(s) it's really hard to take actions. Without the record of public cameras, without eyewitnesses, without a description of the stealer, so basically only with your word it's really hard to start doing anything.
And if you make up any proof against someone, so you fake it, you will be the one who comes out of the story as the one who lost the case. Why? Because you have falsified evidence.
About your returning while banned story i think there's nothing more to add, everything is clearly stated in the C&A policy, as i have mentioned above at the part of falsifying evidence.
I think we get on well with Dream, and personally i believe we both do our best for the CoD1 and UO community.
We are open for any suggestion/idea, we are not robots, i mean we try to give a little bit more freedom to the players (e.g.: optional 4x4 on OC). Also UO has cups after years, and it just runs well, it seems there will be a NationsCup for CoD1 in Winter.
The conflicts and ladder applications are handled fast, and we do our best to detect fake-matches and sort out the punishment for them.
Okey, enough about us, guess you can see it if you want. I am sure you know this quote: Not just look the things, see them.
So i can suggest you not just looking on the comments on the forum, but seeing the reality behind them. Check that who whines usually. I help you: Those, who got banned, lost a or some conflict(s),or the ones, who got a warning or card (on OC) for anything.
Anyway, i do not understand why are you whining and spamming the cod1 forum, as you are mature enough, and i think you are basically a great person, atleast when we played together some matches i thought you were, and guess you haven't changed during this one year.
I wish you good luck in real life, but in return please stop this on the cod1 forum, as it's pointless and annoying. |
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Reply | lOWIK wrote:
dream : Falsyfing evidence isn't an OFFENSE if the guy who i have faked his pbss was really haxing.
oh my, that's ALMOST as bad as saying "hacking isn't an offence since my opponent hacked too."
Doesn't matter if the guy was actually hacking. Faking evidence deserves punishment, based on principle. It may be harsh in your opinion, but if you break the rules, prepare to deal with the consequences.
There's no point in continuing to whine here, since it will make no difference whatsoever We (me and homa) didn't set the rules in the C&A policy either, so hey if you're looking for someone to blame to make you satisfied, it's not us! |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- lOWIK - lOWIK - Mon 30 Aug 07:13
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Reply | +1 for homa. Totally agree with him.
But If I made pbss, it's only I was sure about my action. I didn't have other solutions to do. I mean : Checked eye dent, records, rwb... Nothing ! But I was really sure with xav they were haxing. But you didn't make any appeal about my ban and you knew they were haxing too. If I spam cod1 forum It's only for 1 reason, I'm banned for nothing, I helped cod1 commnity. When I posted my "fake" pbss, all people supported my action and one month later he get busted for WH... And I was banned for that.
At the start : I was banned only for 6 months + RWB i'm actually banned until 2030.... I could come back when I'll be grandfather ^^ I just want to profite to play at my age... And I was one of the most active player on cod1...
If I haxed I could understand my ban for that, but pbss for EVIDENCE HAX, I'm saying myself It's really bad for me.
Pcw on cod1 doesn't exist nowadays... We can see only cb... I can't play it. And I don't want to play with other nick, I just want to admin can do something for me. I'd want to continu to participate at cups, Night cups, OC, NC but If i'm banned on cb i couldn't...
I can bring other players on NC If i'll play it like : oz, vaz, rukkae, wkn, arno, yeye, guigui...and some other old players who are playing at cod4.
I hope you understand my message with my bad english.
You could talk to me in private if you want on cb, mirc, xf... what else ^^
CU |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- Grievous - reno - Mon 30 Aug 17:31
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Reply | if every consequences could be talked/whined away, life would be much more easier sometimes...
but it isn't
u made a mistake, now u HAVE TO live with the consequences... i hope u learned something, especially for ur life |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- lOWIK - lOWIK - Tue 31 Aug 04:40
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Reply | | Who are you to say me what i have to do in my real life ? |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- wesseLL - T.N.T - Mon 30 Aug 22:02
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Reply | | good rule. but if i were admin i would be more heavy-handed: i think that if a rwb player is caught, then every match played by him should be a forfeit lost... it's unequal that i have to get a defeat if i play against a retard haxor, punish the entire clan then |
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Reply | | I will ask the C&A crew whether it may work or not as it seems to be a nice idea. |
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Reply | k Homa, We all know lOWIK violated rules with fake pbss. BUT, The both guys who he tryed to ban are banned for cheats.
So, lOWIK is banned for nothing. You'll tell me he his RWB, But think about him, He is a good player and active player. COD1 Need active players,
Maybe we should make a petition to unban lOWIK ?
Everybady know him and pcw nowadays are shitty. Do something for him and for CoD. If you didn't banned him, LEGENDZ was going to play the SummerCup, but without our 5th player, it was impossible.
Can't you do something 'fair' and stop think about rwb ?
Rova/Vani
_ lOWIK : Faut que tu m'explique quelque truc, j'veut pas te prendre la tete ou quoi meme si on joue plus ensemble, mais déjà explique moi pourquoi on joue plus ensemble (et donne moi une vrai raison cette fois) et j'ai tapé 'lowik' en recherche sur le forum, jsuis tombé sur des truc que j'aimerai comprendre et que j'en parlerai pas sur cb.
Donc si t'es assez mature pour discuter avec moi sur xfire, rajoute moi (rovaa), voila, j'espere que l'autre hongrois va t'unban bref cu xfire maybe... |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- homa - SAVARIA - Sun 19 Sep 05:33
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Reply | | I see he is active, i even played some matches with him in the past, but he violated the c&a policy, and there's no exception. He got banned, and as he couldn't sit on his butt, he was being banned for rwb. Now face the consequences and stop sending friends/neighboors/cats/dogs/parrots/brothers/sisters/parents on the forum whining to unban you lOWIK, as you can thank only yourself that you got banned. Keep your head down and think about it. |
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Reply | | lOWIK didn't sended me here, He didn't talk me for a long time now ... nvm he's banned for fakepbss on banned players = null 0_o |
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Reply | | well i was also banned for 6 months for cheating in public server, what i did not, tested a hacked cfg better said in combination with ati driver it was like a code hook, it was tested by esl admins and pb admins, but i didnt got unbanned too (i was unbanned in esl), maybe that was my advantage, so i could not return in cb, another point maybe i didnt know so much about rwb and stuff. But what im really trying to say is that it would be nice to unban lowik, he is a active player maybe can set up a new team or play in one and so there is one nice opponent more. |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- daNNN - vital - Sat 25 Sep 19:17
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Reply | | I agree with travis. cod is dead, let's unban him. |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- homa - SAVARIA - Mon 27 Sep 00:10
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Reply | | Despite the fact he is active, there's no way to do a petition to unban someone. He had only 6 months ban at the beginning, but he returned and returned and returned. He can thanks it only himself. Even i would be glad seeing him back to vCoD, as he is active and knows lot of players, he violated CB C&A policies, therefore he is banned, and will remain it. |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- PQ - PQ - Mon 27 Sep 17:05
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Reply | Hey It's lowik. I would to thx all people are supporting me I made a new account cause Homa ban me on the forum ! I could write anything on the topic ^^ So I will probably get another ban for that... I will be unban at 2030 so maybe when I will be grandfather...
If he unabnn me It will be sure I'll set up a new team with xav ztve noname.... Some french clean players but homa really doesn't care about the vcod community...
As we said before, we could see marre playing, kozma, kasca... All banned players are continuing to play with any problem...
In the futur I will hax for becoming rwb player without problem |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- Simon  - NvL - Tue 28 Sep 16:04
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Reply | banned for nothing ?
AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
SURE |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- PQ - PQ - Wed 29 Sep 01:17
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Reply | | Is It a joke or your version ? |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- homa - SAVARIA - Wed 29 Sep 04:29
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Reply | | Looks like you enjoy being banned. I won't make you sad. Tomorrow i will request ban on your new account. |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- PQ - PQ - Wed 29 Sep 17:14
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Reply | | Yeh cause it's ridicoulous to see your fail homa. LOOKS LIKE ENJOY TO MAKE BAN NO LIFE I don't play I don't care ! I could make all account as i want ! |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- dream - born4porn  - Wed 29 Sep 19:00
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Reply | takes 10 secs to get you banned.
takes more than a minute to make a new account.
np np. |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- PQ - PQ - Fri 1 Oct 06:53
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Reply | waiting your ban  You didn't see it isn't ly same ip and you have no proof i'm lowik ^^ I didn't play with this account so it isn't considired like rwb ! |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- yz - mix - Tue 12 Oct 23:57
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Reply | | xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- No Nqme - dICKERS - Mon 25 Oct 21:29
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Reply | | It's the same for me BAN FOR NOTHING ! RWB but i never was ban so i don't understand ... they say i'm xav and when i make ban appeal they say to me to give a proof that i'm not xav -_- is it a joke ? |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- vn1 - ex-Gamekings - Tue 2 Nov 07:29
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Reply | | Lol, Nonqme got the impossible to do to be unbanned nice admins, proof you arn't xav :] it's their job to proof if nonqme = xav, here not so let's unban him firstly |
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Reply | We have proof that he is same as Xav. It is an IP-match, but that's not visible for public view due to several reasons.
If he is interested in more details, he should send an appeal and as it's CoD1 related most likely i will get his appeal and will try to explain him the case more detailed. In case he can proove our decision was bad, then his ban will be removed. |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- No Nqme - wod - Tue 9 Nov 01:45
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Reply | | we live in the same town so i often play at his home that why you find the same ip |
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Reply | | How sad and unfortunate this may be; we actually need all these cheating hungarian kids who keep returning. It atleast brings some activity to the game. However they should just stop cheating for once after already being returned a million times.... -_- |
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RE:Banning for re-adding rwb players
- homa - homa - Wed 19 Dec 15:21
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Reply | The ban was made because after that your account got suspended, there were ip match between the two accounts, and not only on CB, but in-game as well. The fact that he got added to the clan is just a bit plus for the other - stronger - proofs.
I know, that by default you are two different players, but as you used his account and guid, we decided to suspend the account for returning while banned. |
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