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Reply | Team Poland stole the APC from our main base on the 1st round of Bazaar. There was a live stream and 300+ people have seen this happen.
According to the rules,
◦ All ground vehicles are allowed. But, only 1 tank and 1 jet are allowed each game. This means that you can only use the tank, heli, jet on your base. NOTHING else. If you take the tank that spawns on a other flagpoint you will be disqualified. Stealing the vehicles is forbidden.
Chatlog from IRC, with CB admin present.
<Karnage|pejter> guys come on he didn't knew about that rule
<Karnage|pejter> 1 of our players forget the rule and took apc from their respawn
Match conflict. |
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RE:POL - NED
- SadAct - AUS  - Mon 26 Mar 11:23
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Reply | | Really? You get owned 500-0 and try cheat a win? |
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Reply | Even if you didn't count any of the tickets from that entire round, you still would have lost. Poland deserves the win.
Hopefully the admins have some common sense and don't award a forfeit win for something that didn't effect the outcome at all. |
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Reply | | It's not about cheating a win, it's about following the rules. I would like to see CB's reaction since the rules are clear about it. I dont care about going to the semifinals, aslong as the rules are in place. |
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Reply | | Show some sportsmanship, it didn't effect the outcome at all, you lost by 500 tickets. |
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Reply | When POL steals the APC in the beginning, the entire round will change. NL will not have the APC to attack, so they will have less power to attack critical points. This could lead to desperate tactics to get some spots back. If you lose the first round, this can have effect on the entire game. You have to regain momentum which could never happen.
Should team NL have stopped the game at the moment the tank got stolen? I think they did the right thing to keep playing and let CB decide after the match. |
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RE:POL - NED
- xD - POL  - Mon 26 Mar 12:14
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Reply | screen or never happend does someone got killed by apc? i dont think so.
even if you are right 0:250; ; 116:0; 92:0; 151:0 overall 359:250, you have lost anyways. |
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Reply | Strange enough everything is recorded except that round, coincidence?
Let's see how CB deals with this. |
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Reply | | Hopefully CB redeems itself and doesn't award a forfeit for something that didn't effect the outcome. |
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Reply | They took it, and destroyed it after about 30 secs, so we didnt have the APC for about 2 mins.
The rules say nothing about damage/time or outcome for that matter. |
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RE:POL - NED
- xD - POL - Mon 26 Mar 13:01
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Reply | | i have no idea how it could influenced for next 3 rounds. I havent seen any proof, because chat log with peter isnt one. He wasnt even on server. Finaly i dont see the point of protest when score is 513:0. |
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Reply | | Now you tell me it didnt happen? Is this the opinion of team Poland or your own? |
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Reply | It seems noone know what happened exactly on map one, round one. Personally i think, even if they took the BMP, it wasn't from the main base. I never saw anyone run into the Russian main, jump into the BMP, and drive out.
So here it is, what i think might happened.
- Netherlands took their BMP from their main, possible with only one driver
- One Polish player was near to the exit / KORD
- As the BMP passes, it took possibly 2 hits (one from a SMAW and one from the KORD)
- The driver jumps out, gets killed
- Polish enginieer jumps into the disabled vehicle, then jumps out
- BMP blows up
Rules regarding to vechiles:
16. Match Rules - general, section 7. Vehicle rules
- All ground vehicles are allowed. But, only 1 tank and 1 jet are allowed each game. This means that you can only use the tank, heli, jet on your base. NOTHING else. If you take the tank that spawns on a other flagpoint you will be disqualified.
This does not apply for this issue (or at least not 100%). This rule's purpose is to forbid teams to take an other spawned vehicle from a captured flag point, if that vehicle can be found in the main base.
- All perks are allowed except the Night Vision(IRNV, THERMAL VISION).
Not related.
- Stealing the vehicles is forbidden.
This is right one. It's forbidden to steal, but as i pointed out yesterday, this rule does not contain exact punishment.
Also please not the following:
- Poland won all 4 rounds, with a total of 513 tickets
- There is no visual evidence. No videos, no pictures, nothing.
- You can't measure actual gameplay damage. It's possible that even if the Polish players would have left the burning vehicle alone, it would have been destroyed anyway. Or one Dutch player kills everybody, repairs the BMP, and unleash hell, winning the round.
If i have to make a call on this, the best i could/would, do is give NED a forfeit win for round one (250:0). This wouldn't change the outcome, Poland would be still the winner of the game, which they deserve i belive (its a 4-0).
Since you requested more than one opinion of this issue, i won't do anything about this, i'll let Lxy/cYpher decide. |
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Reply | Lot, you were present as an CB admin in the IRC channel yesterday, where the Polish captain said,
<Karnage|pejter> guys come on he didn't knew about that rule
<Karnage|pejter> 1 of our players forget the rule and took apc from their respawn
There are many people who watched the stream and they will tell the exact same, from the base. It was clearly visible, the player streaming took it.
It doesnt matter where the APC was on the map, the outcome is the same. |
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Reply | | so what's the end of ther story ?? why it's 1-0 for NED ? |
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Reply | | Nothing has been decided yet, the result is pending. |
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Reply | I've edited the result 359:250 for Poland.
BUT, deleting evidence and acting like nothing happened is not the way these tournaments should be played.
GL in the Semi-Finals. |
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Reply | Cheers Opti you showed some real sportmanship here.
hat off to you and Team NED!
Granting the win to POL, even though they "stole" the APC from your spawn. However I havent seen any ss that prove that, just some chatlogs that cant be taken as evidence, as its easy to fake.
I will grant the score you wrote 359:250 to Team POL
And hopefully we will do better rules for upcoming OC from what we learned from this Cup!
/Lxy |
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Reply | Just for the record. It IS possible (for a single guy with the right setup) to run in and steal the APC on Bazar and Teheran and get it out of red zone.
It's pretty obvious a bug though, so even without the no-steal rule we wouldn't do it, fearing the bug abuse rule. |
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