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UMP 45 > ALL ( + HP ) - LeTHaL - reacT - Fri 11 Jun 17:18
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There is many UMP haters out there..
So I`ll try to write about this stuff, i hope there will be some dudes who will understand this.

UMP 45 - its allowed @ CB and there is a question - WHY? ? ?
Its the most powerfull weapon @ mw2.
Why u can take out p90 or barret or other weapons and LEAVE the most unballanced weapon for Clan wars.
@ 100 hp, there is practicly 20% luck against UMP, if u are using secondary weapon like M9, or DEagle.
70 hp its like u are using SP perk, so its ballanced against SNIPER users, but with 100hp UMP users shoot 3 bullets, doesnt matter how far are u, u are dead. So, the F***ing submachine gun users, ar PWNING @ CW. If you cant take the F***ing UMP out, then give any adventage on HP like 70 or 50 like @ Hardcore mod. So the SNIPER users can play like normal people not only in HS MODE. There is no Chance to kill anyone with 1 shoot. Test it, u will see. Please thing about this. Please.
Sry about my English.
I hope there is someone who is with this IDEA.
With all respect to admins ..
By LeTHaL
RE:UMP 45 > ALL ( + HP ) - Grievous - reno  - Fri 11 Jun 19:36
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if u hit with intervention in the upper torso and head, then u kill with only one shot... train ur aim and everything is fine...

and the ump is quite a strong weapon, but its not that owerpowerd like u describe


the settings at the moment are the most competitive and should stay
RE:UMP 45 > ALL ( + HP ) - LeTHaL - reacT - Fri 11 Jun 19:47
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we tested it..
Didnt work - 2 shoots @ torso - only then died. With painkiller 4 shoots from the distance ofcourse.
RE:UMP 45 > ALL ( + HP ) - Grievous - reno  - Sat 12 Jun 19:44
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u have to hit UPPER torso, not in the middle...

i see quite many one-shot-kills from our sniper. and when i use scope on pub i am also able to kill with one shot... dunno what ur prob is

ok, it doesn't make like 400 damage like in cod4, but if u have descent aim, it will kill
RE:UMP 45 > ALL ( + HP ) - LeTHaL - reacT - Sun 13 Jun 12:41
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@ pub u have SP., so u can make 1 shot kills.
@ Cw nobody is able to make 1 shot kills, if its not in head or UPPER torso LOL, the F***ing HP change would solve the problem.
Why CB cant make any NORMAL decision?
I just dont believe that anybody is able to take rounds with secondary weapon against UMP, only because of 100hp.
Got it?
RE:UMP 45 > ALL ( + HP ) - s7ven - wot? - Mon 14 Jun 10:13
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Do you know what? stop playing this game, it's a useless game, no dedicated servers etc ...
If you can't make mods for this game you can't change the damages, ranges , hitboxes.
So stop talking about this problem and go play a game with dedicated servers & mods!
I think clanbase should limit the number of UMP's in a team, this is all what CB can do against this.
In cod4 only 2 aku's allowed (also overpowered weapon) just an example
RE:UMP 45 > ALL ( + HP ) - LeTHaL - reacT - Mon 14 Jun 10:22
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The game is great, only the system sux.
They can change all, only dont want to do it. Thats the problem.
RE:UMP 45 > ALL ( + HP ) - Lxy ClanBase Crew member - ClanBase Crew - Mon 14 Jun 12:17
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I will look into this. Anyway we cant just allow lets say 2 ump/team as it will be almost impossible to verify (incase of a conflict) that other team used more then the allowed amount of ump... Also as it is now its equal to both teams as you all can choose this weapon and use it.. So no team have an advantage over the other team..

Best thing to do imo..is to make a poll and ask community if they want to remove the ump from the allowed weapon list

Gimme your thoughts here pls.
RE:UMP 45 > ALL ( + HP ) - LeTHaL - reacT - Mon 14 Jun 16:41
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I Dont want to be a LOW pubstar with ump.
Why did u take out p90 or barret ? Its the same about UMP.
Incredible RAGE no RECOIL (alomost) 3 bullets, doesnt matter with silencer or not, anywhere in body - Lethal ending story.
Intervention + Deagle (normal sniper set) Cant do anything against these PUBstars with ump.
There @ pubs, np, be a gay and use it, but I think, and there are people around here @ mw2, who cant stand this weapon.
Yes we can use it, but using it, you cant get any skill with it.
Try to get few prestiges with UMP only and then play CW without it, First thougt will be - THATS GAY etc. COD is wonderfull game, please give any chance with HP = Almoust hardcore 50. Or Take this weapon out of list, or any other way, try to ballance team power - agains these UMP users. Try to play with anybody, Intervention + Deagle - agains UMP with full hp. You will win only if your enemy is deaf or blind.
I will understand, if you will not make any changes, but please this the way to ballance teams.
My english is pretty bad, so i try`d to explane myself.
We played with 50 hp a few times, its so more exciting than get some spawn snipe kill (NOT) because of 100 HP + Painkiller. sry. try poll, but remmeber, all ump users is 80% of all MW2 @ PC users, as we all know. So the poll would be = UMP 4 life for noobs.
I dont care about this weapon ( The biggest problem is = HP, make it 50 and all problems will be solved ) for any player.
GL
RE:UMP 45 > ALL ( + HP ) - reacT.Bradley - reacT - Mon 14 Jun 16:57
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There's no reason to use a sniper rifle, since all you're doing is handicapping yourself. Main reason for that is that: when you get a hitmarker with the intervention you don't have the luxury of a quick second shot, if no changes to HP are made then I think other sniper rifles( that can take a quick second shot) should be allowed.
RE:UMP 45 > ALL ( + HP ) - Grievous - reno  - Tue 15 Jun 13:45
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lol? u can't remove ump!! i bet 80% of all teams would change to esl then... u can't do that.. really
RE:UMP 45 > ALL ( + HP ) - LeTHaL - reacT - Tue 15 Jun 16:06
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Then u can use only 1 ump per team un change HP to 50. - If u can change HP then I dont matter anymore about this UBERPOWERED UMP.
RE:UMP 45 > ALL ( + HP ) - Sil^ - ri-lax  - Wed 23 Jun 13:26
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simple awnser is NO, Use assault rifles or a ump yourself to counter the other team. I personally dont think its overpowered as i dnt seem to have any trouble killing UMp users?
RE:UMP 45 > ALL ( + HP ) - d4rk - d4rk - Wed 23 Jun 14:46
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Yes it's true the UMP is overpowered I can admit that and I use it. Well we will see what happends when the promods are done. If it's in it who cares. Sure you can take it away, but then all you so called "Haters" will start your whining on something else.. It's a part of the game and it's in the rules.. If you're not happy.. Don't play.
RE:UMP 45 > ALL ( + HP ) - Sil - sophisticated - Wed 23 Jun 17:49
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pro mods? we cant mod this game since we have no mod tools? If someone does, please add some dedicated servers! I personally think the ACR is more annoying than UMP45.
UMP45 has quite some recoil, a lot more than most guns. ACR is a no recoil 60 bullets spray machine for example.
RE:UMP 45 > ALL ( + HP ) - d4rk - d4rk - Fri 25 Jun 12:39
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http://www.youtube.com/user/mrHaritas#p/a/u/2/-SUPWOUnZN0

Check his clips, if that's not a promod Idk what it is.
RE:UMP 45 > ALL ( + HP ) - LaKai - 6* - Tue 17 Aug 14:23
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and then you get banned by steam. For changing alot values in the game engine. Do you still want this promod ? Even tho it means you'll get banned by VAC ?

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