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Reply | dunno if there's a topic regarding this but...
maybe CB should give it a try :
- gives you a unique ID
- it detects if you have altered pk's.
- you get a detailed list of the people their processes running.
- you get their cfg files.
- it takes screenshots.
- you have the ability to download mohaa / mohaa main folder etc so your sure to play with a "out of the box" game.
- their mohaa.exe starts recording as soon as you open the game. (only thing they should try to fix is the WT stuff as it still shows up in their .exe)
Screenshots and the automatic record files get uploaded as soon as you close mohaa.
other then that it basicly works like UAC, meaning you have to use a match id. |
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RE:MOHAAC
- monY - -F - Tue 6 Mar 09:09
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Reply | | LETS USE IT PLZ |
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RE:MOHAAC
- Sneaky - F - Tue 6 Mar 08:03
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Reply | | Looks nice, worth a try |
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Reply | Currently prevents: 100% of cheats and hacks for MOHAA!
Pretty big statment although I love the idea of screen shots working will catch alot of the cheats like x22 and such  unless its we play our server every war ... |
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Reply | | definitely needs to be tried |
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RE:MOHAAC
- Sneaky - F - Tue 6 Mar 09:00
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Reply | Clear screenshots. Screenshots made with MOHAAC will never be black
I did try it and i had black screens lol ^.^ |
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Reply | | i had grey screenshot but i turned that "I have clear screenshots" off and it worked then. |
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Reply | Sound ok for me exept:
- you get a detailed list of the people their processes running.
I would say no thx then. I got nothing to hide at all, but I won't show to ppl my antivirus, my computer protections. It's still a game, not a cops.
Voted no for me. |
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Reply | | And the fact you have to change and/or delete a million files, no thnx |
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Reply | Xin use sandboxed and it will create its own process tree like its a diffrent processor hides all your pc and will only let the software just scan that. And basicly box off a section just for that programe so your pc should be safe in that sense.
It can probably also be used to hack with but at least its safe  |
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Reply | if its sandboxed then that would mean you need mohaa in sandbox aswell.
i guess  |
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Reply | | you can run it through sandbox |
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Reply | | Very good stuff, should be tried asap |
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Reply | | bye bye french poors with powerstrip. |
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RE:MOHAAC
- Reyalz - æ  - Tue 6 Mar 14:33
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Reply | | Haha.. I used that shit years ago.. didnt see much advantage in it though :O!! xxx |
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RE:MOHAAC
- Reyalz - æ - Sun 11 Mar 22:37
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Reply | | Who developed this? Seems to of been around only a few months ;o xxxxx |
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Reply | | So whats now? Will it be introduced? Admins, any statement please. |
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RE:MOHAAC
- bzck - [A] - Mon 19 Mar 07:40
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Reply | | Ok, most of the mohaa players wait for rules to be updated on cb and finally play some normal wars on mohaac without laming and whining. Admins you should give a try to this ac, everyone exactly knows that demo only or demo/uac are not complete anticheats. |
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RE:MOHAAC
- zAlios - pH  - Tue 20 Mar 15:59
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Reply | | any admin is looking here ? it can give mohaa the second life |
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Reply | | It's worth a try, everything is better than the current situation I think ... |
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Reply | | The guy who made Mohaac used to send trojans to people to steal their paypal info. I'd be careful with this. |
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Reply | so what,
if ur unsure about it, like vex stated earlier .... run it through sandbox - that way your pc doesnt get "infected" if that would be the case wich i doubt. |
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Reply | | you can't run it through sandbox its protected |
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RE:MOHAAC
- bzck - [A] - Fri 23 Mar 14:34
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Reply | | Uac3 is detected by AVG as the virus aswell... |
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Reply | | Where is your Evidence for your accusation ?? |
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Reply | Nothing can be worst then UAC, so i definitely vote YES to give it a try!
+ i like all the features, we never had all this included in one anticheat before.
admins could maybe first let the choice to play wars with UAC or with MOHAAC, and if everything goes well for the wars played with MOHAAC, then maybe it should be the only anticheat authorized. |
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Reply | | why do you want force someone to play on one anticheat? |
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Reply | Because basicly we have the choice between MOHAAC and UAC.
UAC is even worst than DMW back in time, it doesn't block lots of cheats and u get black screenshots. So if we try this MOHAAC and find out that it s better than UAC, why keep play with UAC after?
If it s such a big problem, then u can still choose to play an opponent that accepts to play without any anticheat, that won't make a big difference than when you play with UAC anyway. |
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Reply | | This topic is almost one month old, but i haven't seen any admin telling whats gonna happen or at least sharing their opinion about this. |
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Reply | | Its really needed to play with anticheat on that shit_league? lo0ol0lo |
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Reply | | is it really needed to play with uac vs u when none of ur ss's come out properly ? |
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Reply | | I have no idea why admins havent said anything about this, if this does what it says, it should be used in the OC. |
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Reply | | + now it has an rcon broadcast message - like DMW had saying blablabla is not running the client so that's a nice feature aswell in my opinion. |
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Reply | yet a not single "non-bullsh1t" statement from an admin who should be excited as most people who commented on this topic was yet to be made
if it's one thing it's the admins in this game
may I ask why is there no eurocup for mohaa this time considering the amout of people coming back / increase in activity of ladders ? |
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Reply | | because theres not enough good clans for EC |
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Reply | no I think that NC is a good evidence there are good players/clans able to compete
and probs a qualifier for rising stars (clans )
u should get around 8 clans |
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Reply | | and then who plays the OC? |
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Reply | upgrade 2nd league top clans to 1st league
2nd league will run fine with 2 groups (gif hunt y0 )
+ I would not personally look much at OC giving there's an EC around not to mention I have to be fair If you're gonna run a successful EC there will be another one next season
when OC , whether it's a fail or not will always be there |
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Reply | | lol anta meen awl mara ashofk hna |
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Reply | We have known about Mohaac since January (see earlier this thread) and started a topic about it on the crew forum in the same month. However, it kinda got forgotten. This thread did remind us of that topic though and we started to discuss the possibilities of this AC
Our main concern is the validity of this A.C. But we haven't had the opportunity to setup a test environment and evaluate it. |
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RE:MOHAAC
- nash - nash  - Sat 31 Mar 19:10
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Reply | | I think with OC coming up, you should test it because it seems that UAC doesn't do shit besides lagging people. |
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Reply | | why doesnt every1 just come to uk and lan for the cup? |
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Reply | | thats a proof that u guys are sleeping instead of doing ur job. omg like that needs 5 months to test and say if its ok |
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Reply | the only thing ppl will dislike is watersound on the bridge. unless you make a "valid" pak3.pk3
but other then that... this looks alot more promising then UAC imo. |
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Reply | | cinematic program doesn't work with that anticheat? |
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RE:MOHAAC
- J- - DB - Tue 3 Apr 11:48
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Reply | | it blocks any file like dmw 3 did and its mohaa.exe is blocking any injected files just the screen shot method they use is poor, but its still better than UAC3 |
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Reply | | sorry i didnt follow that. I don't know what you mean by injected files or whatsoever. The cinematic program I used worked with dmw, never had problems with it. |
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Reply | | Simply do a vote? test enviroment? Thats what the communitys 4 not admins that dont know fuckall about the game, pull ya fingers out and get on with it. |
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RE:MOHAAC
- r3zy - oOo. - Tue 3 Apr 11:01
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Reply | | You tell them! shaws for admin! |
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RE:MOHAAC
- J- - DB - Tue 3 Apr 11:42
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Reply | | hybris said it needs to be tested and they dont got time lololol |
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RE:MOHAAC
- bzck - [A] - Tue 10 Apr 13:08
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Reply | Than create 4v4+ test mohaa real obj temporary ladder with mohaac as anticheat, if it will not be good you could just remove it, people will test it if you havent got time.
Btw anyone played it, can i play on mohaac with deleted sounds folder, besides dialogue, instead of cinematic? And how about mohaa recorder can be, or has to be stock mohaa.exe? |
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Reply | u need to download the mohaa.exe through the anti-cheat
and it lets u record.
u can play without soundfolder cuz i do it aswell. the only thing is .. you cant have an editted pak3.pk3
wich means u'll have to play with the watersound @ bridge
unless you can convince the admin otherwise. |
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RE:MOHAAC
- bzck - NBK - Sun 15 Apr 16:51
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Reply | no problem i play with water sound all the time  |
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Reply | I managed to get rid of the watersound by downloading "MOHAA Completely" through the anticheat and adding my own sound folder to the main folder.
This way you can play without any background noises and you are still clean. |
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Reply | | 2bad its not being used on the OC :/ |
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Reply | - Need to be tested
- Need to be evaluated
- Need to pitched it at C&A department
- C&A needs to give approval
- Rulebook needs to be adjusted
- ect
- ect |
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Reply | | all this stuff would take only 2-3 days, now its been a month and we still talking about getting it into cb... |
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Reply | Does:
- ect
- ect
mean replace mohaa admin xxx with an competent-willing-to-put-some-sweat into-this-guy ?? |
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Reply | this anti-cheat was mentioned for the 1st time in this post
http://clanbase.ggl.com/forum.php?fid=9910&zid=00FF760E
Thu 19 Jan 02:19
as i recall 1 of the requirements of a cb-admin is to check the forums on a regular base and actively participate in it..
the only thing said in that topic was
RE:UPDATE ANTICHEAT RULES - Hybris - ICE - Thu 19 Jan 17:37
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I've installed it on Windows XP, Vista and 7 without any issues...
that was regarding to UAC but no words about MOHAAC
so seems to me that you admins could have tested this anti-cheat since Jan. wich would have been enough time to test/evaluate/and given approval for it. |
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Reply | | I checked the webside. Vote for using it tomorrow! DD |
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Reply | I recently played some demo-only wars and put on MOHAAC (just me) just to try it. It works really well:
Here's a quote from DELLX, the developer:
MOHAAC does ban by hardware ID and IP. Those 2 combined make it pretty difficult to bypass. but of course there will never be a ban that cannot be bypassed unfortunately
MOHAAC currently prevents all current hacks for MOHAA. So if you go to ucdownloads,mpcdownloads, what have you, you will not be able to find a hack there who's behavior is not detected (and yes, MOHAAC detects BEHAVIOR primarily and signatures secondarily, which is much better)
The AC will collect the following information on your computer:
1. The processes that are running at the start of MOHAA
2. The processes that have started after the start of MOHAA
3. The UDP ports open on your computer
4. The console text of your MOHAA
5. Your MOHAA Configs
6. The modules loaded into MOHAA
It does NOT go into your cookies, personal documents or anything like that to detect cheats (UAC does do this, which is illegal actually). MOHAAC is not even detection-based, it's more prevention-based, which is the best way to be right now, because bypassing signature detections is extremely easy, which is why UAC is so terrible in preventing cheats.
The only thing I have not tested yet is the use of custom maps. Custom maps are blocked by default. However you can make a safelist with the maps you want to add so all players will be able to download these maps automatically and play the match clean with custom maps. |
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Reply | | Admins should atleast try it. |
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Reply | | don't expect it before end of NC and OC |
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Reply | | Any progress so far? |
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