We are currently investigating this.

Imo for c~air would be better to translate this movie to english. Because without hearing authors voice, it's impossible to get the point of this movie.
But unfortunatelly author didn't get why exactly Wassabis demos are dodgy and look suspicious. It's not because of some weird sweeps. The demo look dodgy coz there are WAY TOO MUCH of them. And also some really strange moments, like was mentioned on Dewsicks movie and for exmaple the moment (also noticed that when i watched duku demo before that movie got published) when he was jumping through right bouncepad to enemy high entrance and was moving his crosshair widely and shooting to the floor below the enemy.
Ordinar player could have some sweeps. I did also. It's usually happening when you are reacting fastly by reflexes. For example with spawnkill in instagib. And imo it's really hard to have so much sweeps and still have that amount of frags with nice accuracy. It's way too random for me. Or maybe he had that day vs DmK the best game in his life (and vs d4s it's was just normal day)! But that doesn't explain these weirds moments in his demo...

Ye sure may be he usd fake. Wich one? can u tell me? No shit plz

maybe he used fake nick?huh?

Look at his demo.Its just a lil part.I'll upoad full demo after some period of time...

http://www.sendspace.com/file/5srzk3

[A]xe[L] please.. i know russian ut community since 2001, but im never c this player. I told i saw hem rirst time may be in 2009 and he playn and moving like absolutley noob on those moment. Only good thing what he doing its some impressive shots, from primary minigun and making efective standcombos. Nothing more..

I think its rly annoyin'.Wassabi played a lot of his Ut time at UrS server,vs good players (in my mind) like Berserker,Dr.Paranoia,Weed and others.In the words of Paranoia,Wassabi have good knowledge about maps and mooving.of coz he have it,he playing this game lots of years.He started to play UT when when i was watching Disney's cartoons and proud of Donald Duck.If he is good player and aimer he is 98% cheater?

soon,i'll upload disproof to the Denswick's (sorry if i made mistake in his nick) demo.

Same here, I saw him years ago on a lot of servers and played with him some 1on1s. I thought (and I think) hes just a good player... the most of the cheaters on the servers are idiots with a bad movement, no map knowledge etc. - But he knows the maps and has a good movement since years.... But youre the experts - So Bye Wassabi.

Anyway, I find it sad, that he doesnt write down his own opinion here...

nice job dewsick

It's quite far from thew sweeps wassabi did.

1st
before sry about cheat need surelly know, udemo engine work not perfectly and many bugs there
[FIXED] : Missing target info (Pure bug)
[FIXED] : The camera would sometimes start shaking for no reason (eg: while ducking)
fixed ye mb in 2009 with old anticheats, but today new versions may conflict.

capture realtime game and capture from udemo playback, Difference!
also many in russia use russian UT with russian symbols of text and voice
also exist udemo2\3\ and few modifications (UsAaR33,

2nd
everybody see "Trigger Tutorial" from senz (ridiculously) and there not same like in deswik not same huge long of sweep
http://flameupload.com/files/8X9N75KA/Direct%20shot%20in%20game.%20Sweep%20in%20udemo%20playback%20.avi
i was remember 100% i'll make shot direct in body, but in playback sweep hit

3rd
for example exist cheater in some clan (nobody know and not intersting coz he not take first place) exist hamachi and share UT folder
with User.ini where some button must be setup for cheat action, by regret may exist outer exe cheat in that case need share all process of cpu and need advanced Observer who find cheats.

sweep in vid deswick real see strange, but remember that not real game, video playback from not perfectly workin udemo

Pretty pathetic for advanced european players! But players like WASSABI, m2d_combo, me, live in Russia, not even in Moskow, bears are walking along our streets, we wear Ushanka and drive Trackors or BTR, we are cooking on wood fuel and using balalayka instead of Hi-Fi systems at disco

Very easy, a lot of players pay to cheat. Pretty pathetic huh?
It gets updated obviously, and every single time a new anticheat comes out, someone will bypass it.
People cheated years ago, no difference at all. We all possibly have known a cheater who we don't suspect, nobody knows.

Hm. First time when i c wassabi may be 3 years ago, and never seen hem before. And first thing what i saw its many strange frags by hem, and very good knowledge where hes enemy ( 4 me looks like radar or smthn like this ). I watching some of hes demos and im never sure 100% he use cheat. Im asking admin of some ru dm server making utdc sshots from hem when he fragging, and nothing, its was clear. So i have only one question, if he use cheats, how he playn with this shit on different servers with differents and new anticheats during years, and never been detected?
ps.im sorr 4 my english

video explains all, gj.

an easier ban then this is not possible imo
100% cheat

thx lewis for making the vid. He probably doesn't get punished by act, but atleast the russian ut1 scene knows hes a cheater now. Funny that he still denies it tho

Basically, the recording software which I used takes some frames away so it's pretty choppy. I recorded at 40FPS with fraps. If I record any higher usually it goes slomotion.

Video is interesting, but is the frame amount real in the avi? Coz for me it seems that there should be more fps.

The thing is, sweeps are possible. I have a few saved on AVI where people would think I was cheating too. The fact is I don't cheat. :P
The key is the consistency of it. I have maybe 1/2 weird shots a game sometimes 0. The fact he also likes to shoot through walls is a big giveaway for me. Also, the one where he dodged near the poles and swept across BNG. Thanks for the positive feedback though. PM me on IRC for more info if needed.

good job man )). Now it really makes me think. Just one moment - would be inetersting to watch similiar moments in your own demo and see the diffrence. Gonna do it with mine I guess, as i obviously know that i do not cheat. Your video alone makes a good point anyway.

lovely explenation there dew, shame my name never was named in that vid! pff

Video as requested: http://www.sendspace.com/file/apkejo

Sorry if I've missed anything, I'm not an expert in Anticheat like I quoted in the video, just the fact that it's clearly ridiculous and there's no way cheaters should go unpunished.
I sound fucking terrible also but nvm! Enjoy.

well, if u guys are so sure he cheats, then idd post the movie with explanation.

make it as concrete as possible.

i havent seen the demo and im not interested as well, but all i can say:
if u put all ur energy in whining in comments about cheating vs having a non existant AC, then do it urself to prove as much as possible!

His triggerbot in all three demos is so obvious but still no decision has been made by CB. As Dewsick said nothing will happen most likely anyway. Sad story!

Sigh, you're completely full of shit it's pathetic.
The demos are there, you are such a bad cheater it's amusing.
Had a couple of cases of this already in the American UT scene, where players have lied through their teeth, itching for people to believe they're clean and ended up admitting to cheating 7 months after banned.
You're not convincing anyone, even your clan members suspect you.
You're also certainly not convincing me, in actual fact you won't even get banned for cheating nowadays as our Anti-cheat is non-existant.

Also:
[quote]W@SS@BI wrote:
OMG.Do you think I'm noob who does not know how to play without cheating.[quote]

Hmmm... Yes. I think you're an awful cheater.
It's not often I say anything these days but in a community of ~100 people still cheating just makes it pathetic.
I don't blame the people that left UT because of people like you. Hence why I can't be fucked with Clanbase anymore unless I'm playing with friends.

OMG.Do you think I'm noob who does not know how to play without cheating. You are deeply mistaken. I've been playing very long. Yes I am on clanbase signed up recently, yes a brand new clan, but that does not mean that we do not know how to play. I had simply had not been asked to play in tournaments for clanbase. Previously, we have organized tournaments very often at home. My experience has grown over the years. I'm purely without cheating. You can hate me but I'll play as best I can. And sory for my English language,I hope you understand me ...

Timestamps to look at:
14:16 - A medium sweep
13:09 - Shoots at the wall, directly in line with a player when he goes past wall, followed by again, a shot at the wall where the spawn is, in mid low bump room (someone spawned there as you can see the gun as he walks past).
12:50 - Follows slightly through the mid low (follows the player with the crosshair) a small-medium sweep.
12:37 - Bumps mid-high, sweeps across u-god's head, no shot activated, on the way back from the sweep, a kill. Medium-huge sweep.
There's a lot more to look at also, I found 20-25 moments on Duku alone. I suggest everybody watch the demo from the start with slomo 0.5. Pretty interesting tbh. This player likes to shoot at walls hoping to kill Or doesn't know how to use ping correction!
Such a dumb cheater, but just you wait, he'll end up not getting banned!
Absolutely blatent cheat, if anyone wants to see a 'Sens-style' vid like he done with stong, I can upload it.

Finally could watch a demo.
I'm not an expert, but i could agree with HelioS: full of sweep shots. And with such high mouse sensetivity it's nearly impossible to hit that good [at least for me, but as i told: i'm not an expert].
I watched only duku demo, but i felt that he has two settings of his mouse: 1. slow sensetivity, no sweeps (or at least much less), better combing; 2. fast sensetivity, full of sweeps, only standcombos.. And in result he hits much better with second settings...

JeRoMe!! Come on irc man... Same old channel! :x

Well, I can't answer your question bcoz I wasn't the one who recruited him as I'm not in c~air . Forward it to them. Posts from Ramdrop, bng and Helios are good enough, why would I defend him? It wasn't clear for me and they explained it rather good, so i can see what they find strange. What's your problem? :P

Oh my god how cute are you, please?
I didn't say anything about me. Just that one guy owned, the rest didn't.

hmhm, i playin this game for very long time, (with some serious breaks) i saw several "strange" demos in the last few years while i played OC's NC's EC's. Just watched these demos from wassabi last night and uhm, just dno what to say. I mean i could say oh yes there is smth, those moments on duku you talking about etc, but hey, many of us also saw players with strange aim/gamestyle and most of this players were clear. Just be sure you are right bfor making any decision. Anyways +1 for those whos telling its strange (it dosent mean hes cheating yet).

Okay so, you call me an idiot? Rightly so, you're opinion.
But who the fuck is the bigger idiot? If he's so suspected by you guys and you suspect he is/was cheating, why the fuck did you recruit him and let him play?
You realise you could get a ban for that yourself, right? If he gets caught you just dropped yourself in it. I've seen people get banned for the same thing.
So to sum it all up, you want a cheater to play on your team and you're gonna do nothing about it?
You guys make no sense... Trying to defend a blantent cheater and letting him play because you guys KNOW he's cheating just makes it sick. You guys are fucking retarded, holy fuck.

For some people, when they are against 5 people, they pick the first player they see to aim at, or if they know the skin, they'll take down the bigger threat target..

When there are about 4 people around him, his aim flicks between each one of them, its as if it (IF THERE IS ANY ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE) doesn't know who to aim at, just saying.

Lol, idiot. I'm not defending him, I agreed that it looks strange. Even more, among russian players we also long time suspect him of cheating (in NW too). His demo is just not that obvious to me. I didn't ever had any cheats installed so i wouldn't know how it works. Was answering to bng's post and wanted to see his reasoning.

And considering they played on russian server DmK wasn't such a huge favorites, tho c~air aren't the top russian players, so the difference was still considerable.



Ye, that what i said too. At some point he can';t hit anything then very accurate. I'll watch the demo some more, you may have the point here.

It's 100% a cheat. Google some tutorials how the cheats nowadays work, and a whole new world will be opened for you. You can clearly see that at the important moments his acc will increase to like 90acc. Plus you can see very clear that at certain moments he doesn't have full control over his aim, cus it flicks all over the place when there are several opponents around him.

Don't worry, Serenity still not banned yet, no need for you to be here.
DD

i heard there was flame ?

hi here!

Seems like you're dumb as bricks also.
But then again, defending a cheater, seems like x4. Fucking useless retards. We're running low on smirnoff even though it sucks cunt.
Aiming, really, you honestly think some random scrub who wonders on CB just completely shits on DmK when they are the favourites pretty much? Give me a fucking break.
Retards, sponsored by CB AC. Working on the job 24/7 and get nothing done.
Cya in 3 months! <3

Hehe,

Didn't expect to see Sens' triggerbot-tutorial ever again. UT is still alive! gg

About the demo: I was amused :x

I can see what you mean: sometimes he just randomly shoots and can't hit anything then his aim is really good. However, if you look at how he hits there's nothing too strange. With low ping it's rather easy. At least I didn't see anything too much unusual to say it was cheats.

You still breathing? Thought you died in a tragic death in some "accident"...if only dreams could come true!

Lets not start this retarded discussion again plz

dmk complaining about cheaters..rolf
looks like he would be a great addition to your team

as soon as he touches the flag it seems like he forgets what aiming is and just swings his xhair over ppl :F

you rly think we care because we lost 1 point??hahaha win=win
Maybe we are the only1 posting here because we seen him playing and actually watched the demo.

Only thing what we want is that some, with cb-powerss and cheating-knowledge, will look at this and makes a judgment.

Hello,

We will have a deeper look into the demos asap! Please be a little patient.

Thanks ^_^

duku demo full of sweep shots, no trace of aim

ref: http://www.own3d.tv/video/23962/TriggerBot_Tutorial

I understand. Look at "13minutes remaining" on the Duku demo, its kinda clear as day there, but from my point of view - I see his aim being erratic until he has the flag and then its dead accurate, thats my 2 cents.

I dont say only about your post, but another DMK players wrote a lot about cheating and ban for him.
I will watch this demos, but i am not a pro in such things..

Maybe you should watch the demo's yourself Attaman, I'm just agreeing and saying that at the important moments, the aim goes very accurate.

Why I dont see here any posts from offical cupsupervisors, only grumbling comments from DMK(because they lost 1 point)?

Lol - What you chattin' bout Sean?

Just watched the Duku demo, hilarious aiming there... especially at "13mins" remaining when he gets the flag Lol.. the way his aim just rises straight to the player, fascinating.

gotta love the frst shot on liandridocks, where he "randomly??" shoot around the corner and his aim goes straight to some other person. Very clearly to see because of the pause .
For the rest he knows way to much were players are on duku.
Hopefully some 'expert' can watch this and get some real proof together so this guy can get banned.

Can't say for sure if Wassabi is cheating or not. Never watched his demos. Will check it when i'll be at home.
If he is, then it'd be a shame on him. And sad for comboair clan, since it's their first combo cup and they would be busted for wassabis fault. They don't deserve it.



Strange. Last time i played vs him (even if it was loooong time ago, but not more than a year ago), he was able to make some really nice combos even with high ping (>=70f1).... :/

Not all are so ownage as you I guess, but hey, they aren't such a dickheads either o/

I can see a good game from their players on Lia and Nali town.

I'm sorry, but only one player shown something.

I´m no expert but it doesnt seem to work on his alt fire, or he just dont know how to use the combo properly if thats even possible. Saw some interesting shots...

I watched the demos, can u guys ban wasabi now thx? uses full autoaim as soon he has the flag. ull see that his frames will drop a bit when he has the flag/or covering. and auto aim does the trick. ps: you only have to watch duku. his aiming changes drastically. No hating, just the truth.

Demos of wassabi uploaded

gg was fun

hehe, was nice of DmK to play on Russian server. This way c~air could show all they can . I guess we should gather our russian line-up as well xD.

Looking forward to d4s vs c~air game )



Their clan isn't that old, you couldn't have known :P

Unlucky ComboAIR, just missed Chack Testa to win it!

Respect to DmK for playing all 3 maps on russian server!
GGs

Wassabi is not a faker, just didn't play any cup on CB at all.

No problem, please understand our reasoning - a recent account made on clanbase from nowhere etc..

Didn't realise you were a combo clan, Benno failed to do the research!

gg!
W@SS@BI played UT from 2000 year.
Just he never played at CB before and dont have irc.
He send his demos to COD|Ava and [CB]Email. I think somebody will upload it here.

Ramdrop, thnx for demos=]

Gl at the next matches!

i gotta say (L) nonzp on Russian server
good gamez guys, we(jason) clearly failed on picking combo map vs combo clan! Even when some1 else suggest a map like duku
Still love you jason!

Voted bng for playing combo with us


Question!
Who is this wunderkind W@SS@BI, with his 2month old account and not showing up on irc ?!?!

GG's

Here are my demo's as requested.

http://www.2shared.com/file/kjBGJ5Vy/DmK-ComboAir-Combogame.html

Russian Servers FTW!