During the last week, erazor and me tried to grant all of your requests. We had a total of 22 request and where able to process 14 of them (64 %). That might sound bad for some of you guys, cause we could not come up with your request, but we did our best, trust me!
If you are still unhappy with your group, please make a request with a suggestion how to solve your problem. Just write them down in a comment below this news post.
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Bjorn ([QQ]  ) 5 Feb 2005 19:14 | |
Am I the only one who sees a problem in putting div3 clans in with teams with a jolt div1 and eurocup history? I understand its taken many hours and Im all for giving it a go in div2, but surely this isnt a 'good division'.
Anyways if the mentioned clan doesnt get put down a div (which seems likely then) theyll drop out and it will leave a place. Erazor said he didnt mind putting us back in our original spot if this were the case so I hope he will then. |
MaRlik  (ClanBase Crew) 5 Feb 2005 18:06 | |
Well I had a look on the groups and I guess we cant change that much again. We did 2 changes from Version 2 to the final Version.
We cant make all clans happy and it isn’t that easy to make these groups, its one of the difficult parts in the whole cup!
We spent a lot of hours to make then and they are good now! |
| Bjorn ([QQ] ) 5 Feb 2005 06:39 | |
erazor wrote:
did you find any clan to swap with? cos I did not
The closest I came was 2ex the Devil saying to me theyd either ask to be put down a div or drop out, so if thats the case it doesnt realy matter if you swap us and put my clan at ease. |
| erazor (ClanBase Crew) 5 Feb 2005 00:17 | |
Bjorn wrote:
Any word yet?
did you find any clan to swap with? cos I did not |
| Bjorn ([QQ] ) 4 Feb 2005 14:11 | |
Any word yet? |
| Spucek (Xp) 1 Feb 2005 21:56 | |
erazor wrote:
Spucek wrote:
Why was Xp moved from div4 to div3? We will have weaker team that last OC. Noone from us requested to be in div3.
Pls put us back in div4.
we did that because it solved some other problems... we will see what we can do. ¸
plz do so. |
| carillo (pb) 1 Feb 2005 09:39 | |
From draft v1.0 thread :
erazor wrote:
carillo wrote:
chimp wrote:
@ shall wipe the third division with the floor tbh
At least the group-stage shouldn't be too hard, 3 of the 6 teams in the group have already dropped out :/
be assured that we even that out <img src='http://games.clanbase.com/smiley5.gif' border='0' width='16' height='16' align=absbottom>
You sure did! <img src='http://games.clanbase.com/smiley6.gif' border='0' width='16' height='16' align=absbottom>
./me says : sodomize eraz.. |
| Zielek (sH.) 1 Feb 2005 05:55 | |
./me says : randomize .. |
| erazor (ClanBase Crew) 31 Jan 2005 18:33 | |
Bjorn wrote:
thiste wrote:
I think he implied that maybe group 2c is stronger than the other div2 groups ? Or did I just misunderstand his comments ?
Well I do think that the clans in 2c are (way) above our level, as are quite a few other league 2 clans, but I dont want to take the easy way out and ask to be put down a div. I understand its difficult to make good divisions with every clan pretending theyre crap so they can own a lower div. On the other hand mixing top end div2 clans with mid table div3 teams doesnt make for a fun competition.
What annoys me at this point, is how my clan can get switched from one group to another without being consulted, but when I request the same thing I suddenly have to ask permission to the clans in question.
quite some others had to do that aswell m8 ...
sorry that you did not get asked 
but as I said, you got moved without asking cos it solved other problems... we will see what we can do, though
but you can aswell ask those clans, that would help |
| Bjorn ([QQ] ) 31 Jan 2005 17:26 | |
thiste wrote:
I think he implied that maybe group 2c is stronger than the other div2 groups ? Or did I just misunderstand his comments ?
Well I do think that the clans in 2c are (way) above our level, as are quite a few other league 2 clans, but I dont want to take the easy way out and ask to be put down a div. I understand its difficult to make good divisions with every clan pretending theyre crap so they can own a lower div. On the other hand mixing top end div2 clans with mid table div3 teams doesnt make for a fun competition.
What annoys me at this point, is how my clan can get switched from one group to another without being consulted, but when I request the same thing I suddenly have to ask permission to the clans in question. |
| thiste (MsR) 31 Jan 2005 16:51 | |
I think he implied that maybe group 2c is stronger than the other div2 groups ? Or did I just misunderstand his comments ? |
| erazor (ClanBase Crew) 31 Jan 2005 15:54 | |
Bjorn wrote:
erazor wrote:
that was the intention, yes 
we did not really think we would get any major complaints by just moving around a clan in the same division.
well there wouldnt be no if all clans were around the same level. Do I still need to ask everyone or are you guys on it?
at the moment I dont really have the time to do that, because that is a "minor" problem, considering the other things we have to solve.
But still, if you find a clan that wants to switch with you, we will ofcourse do it |
| Bjorn ([QQ] ) 31 Jan 2005 14:49 | |
erazor wrote:
that was the intention, yes
we did not really think we would get any major complaints by just moving around a clan in the same division.
well there wouldnt be no if all clans were around the same level. Do I still need to ask everyone or are you guys on it? |
| erazor (ClanBase Crew) 31 Jan 2005 14:37 | |
Bjorn wrote:
btw, its all well and good XQ gets our place in 2b, but we werent asked either - we were just moved across without any mention. Cant you guys just move a clan across and see if they start complaining :P
that was the intention, yes
we did not really think we would get any major complaints by just moving around a clan in the same division. |
| Bjorn ([QQ] ) 31 Jan 2005 14:34 | |
btw, its all well and good XQ gets our place in 2b, but we werent asked either - we were just moved across without any mention. Cant you guys just move a clan across and see if they start complaining :P |
| Bjorn ([QQ] ) 31 Jan 2005 14:06 | |
Asking around now, Ill try my best. Frankly though Im not quite sure what clan would realy want to swap. Theres just such a huge skill diffrence between clans like Elaw, 2ex and Rofl and QQ, SQZ (sorry Pally  and I suspect XQ. |
| erazor (ClanBase Crew) 31 Jan 2005 13:57 | |
Bjorn wrote:
Sorry to complain but I like the previous draft better. Even though we've (QQ) never gotten higher than div3, we didnt mind our placing because some of our regular practice buddies were in this 2nd league (SQZ, PPP, all clans our level).
Now with all this moving about were playing Elaw and X ( both jolt div2), Rofl (who walked over us in the playoffs last season), and MSR (who beat us 3 points to 1 in the group stages last time). Im not quite sure how we're expected to get any points, let alone make for fun, close games.
On a sidenote; I sometimes wonder why these groupings have to be so diffrent from the jolt ones. Clans from our Jolt division (3) and group (c) have been placed anywhere between league 2 and league 4 in your lineup. Frankly its a suprise every season where my clan will be placed.
The way to solve this would be another complete restucture of the tables, which I can imagine you arent looking forward to. Nor am I asking to be put down a div (even though theres clan like DED in league 3, who are div2 in jolt 3, who got promoted last season by beating clans like us).
But at least put QQ back in league 2, group B so we can have some decent games vs clans our level (SQZ and I suspect Psy).
Sorry to sound so negative, Im just not looking forward to having to play 4 games which we know on forehand we'll lose.
if you give me an example for which clan to swap, go ahead
talk to the clans of that group and give us info if they would swap with you, than it is no problem.
the reason why the groupings are different from jolt is, that the clans had different success in CB and in Jolt in previous seasons ... we dont copy the groupings from jolt, we mainly look for past seasons and for the wished of the clans. so as I said... ask the clans of the group you want to be in if they want to swap with you |
| Bjorn ([QQ] ) 31 Jan 2005 13:36 | |
Sorry to complain but I like the previous draft better. Even though we've (QQ) never gotten higher than div3, we didnt mind our placing because some of our regular practice buddies were in this 2nd league (SQZ, PPP, all clans our level).
Now with all this moving about were playing Elaw and X ( both jolt div2), Rofl (who walked over us in the playoffs last season), and MSR (who beat us 3 points to 1 in the group stages last time). Im not quite sure how we're expected to get any points, let alone make for fun, close games.
On a sidenote; I sometimes wonder why these groupings have to be so diffrent from the jolt ones. Clans from our Jolt division (3) and group (c) have been placed anywhere between league 2 and league 4 in your lineup. Frankly its a suprise every season where my clan will be placed.
The way to solve this would be another complete restucture of the tables, which I can imagine you arent looking forward to. Nor am I asking to be put down a div (even though theres clan like DED in league 3, who are div2 in jolt 3, who got promoted last season by beating clans like us).
But at least put QQ back in league 2, group B so we can have some decent games vs clans our level (SQZ and I suspect Psy).
Sorry to sound so negative, Im just not looking forward to having to play 4 games which we know on forehand we'll lose. |
| hYperion (aYb) 31 Jan 2005 12:45 | |
Switch bsl with naos!
Would make sense, because naos plays better than div4.
Overall the groups seem to be much better now. |
NeoK (3i  ) 31 Jan 2005 12:44 | |
/me slaps Carillo |
| Pawson (Q3CB) 31 Jan 2005 06:38 | |
pa1n in div3?  |
| erazor (ClanBase Crew) 30 Jan 2005 22:59 | |
Spucek wrote:
Why was Xp moved from div4 to div3? We will have weaker team that last OC. Noone from us requested to be in div3.
Pls put us back in div4.
we did that because it solved some other problems... we will see what we can do. |
| Spucek (Xp) 30 Jan 2005 22:46 | |
Why was Xp moved from div4 to div3? We will have weaker team that last OC. Noone from us requested to be in div3.
Pls put us back in div4. |
| Inumeg (bsl ) 30 Jan 2005 21:36 | |
We'd like to play in 4a, since we know all the clans from 3a... and playing everytime against the same teams.... boooooring. 4a would be more fun. So if naos wants to switch, we'd be pleased. On the other hand we dont mind staying in 3a... |
| Soul7aker (AP) 30 Jan 2005 21:03 | |
AP thanks u verry much clanbase crew |
| NYMAvs aka hze (eLAW) 30 Jan 2005 18:08 | |
thank you! |
| MaRlik (ClanBase Crew) 30 Jan 2005 16:21 | |
seppel wrote:
nice groups imo (at least the german ones, cant really comment on the other groups), maybe you should change bsl with naos.
We already switched VDW(former Div3) with BSL(former Div2) |
| seppel (TT) 30 Jan 2005 16:08 | |
nice groups imo (at least the german ones, cant really comment on the other groups), maybe you should change bsl with naos. |
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