EuroCup XI - UT CTF


sР  -  iNz 
Match:Details
Score:6 - 1
Levels:ranel-je, arean23-le103, cynosure][
Odds:50% - 50%
PotM:sith Germany
sD reaches the final
by: Duke
In a close fight, showed to have just a little more strength then iNz.

First level: Ranel-JE
had some members problems, as one of their main players, muEtzE, broke his fingers the day before the war. UrsTheBear showed up in time to replace him, and the game could get going. Server was quickly agreed on, and without any problems we could start the first map.
Very early into the game, it became obvious that both sides had a stronger defense then offense, and for 8 minutes long, neither side managed to get the flag out of their opponents base. UrsTheBear and scream didn't look to have alot of teamplay together, and the great defense by iNz*GølÐ.« and sh1ty.« didn't let much slip.
Untill there were 10 minutes remaining, then UrsTheBear picked up the enemy flag, and made a quick run towards low midfield, and managed to reach his own base with some nice backup, only to be stopped by iNz*GølÐ.« and iNz*Mediçus, who managed to return the flag.
About 5 minutes after that, when I started to believe this map would end in 0-0, scream stood up to prove me wrong. He grabbed the flag, found some backup and made a quick run through lower midfield. iNz was unable to break through the defense, and scream scored the 1-0, which would also be the end score for this map, even though iNz*KOSTAKi was mighty close to opening the score in a standoff before this run.

Screenshots:



sР win by 1 to 0


Second level: AreaN23-LE103
Second map was AreaN, and iNz decided to put up an offensive tactic here, with 2 defenders playing very close to midfield, one mid helping out in attack often, and 2 fulltime attackers. on the other hand decided to go a bit more defensive, and move the game to midfield whenever their attackers made it that far. In the meantime PSV scored the 1-0 against AC Milan, making me excited, and iNz*cR4zY-n^ upset, for he was losing some money.
Again the game started out slowly, with no strong attacks made within the first 10 minutes. Especially iNz*Chrusaor and sting were doing a great job in defense.
iNz wasn't satisfied with a draw here, and moved more and more towards attacking. Soon they switched to a 2-0-3 tactic, and even though they got some good chances, it was who took advantage of this change of tactic. Two well-played attacks within the last 8 minutes, with a fully controlled midfield, led to two caps, which was just a bit too much for iNz to catch up with in time.

Screenshots:



sР win by 2 to 0


Third level: Cynosure][
Both sides weren't too keen on attacking hard this map, probably because of a lack of experience playing this map. Just like the other maps, iNz attacked very hard, with iNz*cR4zY-n^ picking up alot of flags. But just like the other maps, the defense was just too strong for them to actually finish a cap.
The fact that only needed a draw in this map to win the game showed pretty well, as they never let their opponent get farther then midfield. They made some strong attacks, but their priority was always on the defense.
Neither side managed to make an attack to open the score, and after 20 minutes the score was still 0-0, giving the victory tonight.

Screenshots:



draw 0 - 0


Conclusion
showed to have one of the best defenses in the cup, not letting iNz cap even once. If they manage to get their strongest lineup back in time, they make sure to give oG one hell of a fight in the final.



Comments:(73)


#73 max (-[oG][- )  10 May 2005 12:16Reply
Vote & Statistics oG vs sD

http://www.unrealforum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=114542

!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111oneoneoneone
#72 |J&F|bunneh (|J&F|)  10 May 2005 11:02Reply
ROFL KEV CANT PLAY THE FINAL! :PpPPPpPp
#71 f4k3 (Lw)  10 May 2005 09:20Reply
i havn't watched demos \ utv
but as far as i remember playing in il pu's, or vs il clans, we usully play 3d 2a
only on spiecal maps we do 2d 1m 2a ;p
and i dont think its brutswart(or however i spell it)
but thats just my pov
#70 abeo ([fp.] )  9 May 2005 16:50Reply
Very mostly cleverestiest
#69 iNz*cR4zY-n^ (iNz* )  9 May 2005 14:45Reply
cR4everest :<
#68 EViLRiDER ([*P*] )  9 May 2005 14:12Reply
STFU everyone, the cF4verest is giving in.
#67 Avlan (*UT*)  9 May 2005 13:12Reply
duran wrote:
h0shi wrote:
well, i call it a good defense, if there are 2 players, that can handle it alone.
If you need 3 defs and 2 returning attackers on every flagpickup i wouldn't call it "impressive". It's just good old bratwurst.

as if looza / 23 never go on retrieval when a flag is missing


lzR going for the points? Never!!!
#66 iNz*cR4zY-n^ (iNz* )  9 May 2005 12:33Reply
More cleverer.
#65 pyroplexus ([H&P] )  9 May 2005 02:01Reply
iNz*cR4zY-n^ wrote:
Cleverer is corret term I think, as long as word doesn't have more then 6 letters it can be used with a "er" at end and "est" if you're using superlative. If it's morethen 6 letters then you use "more". Well, I think it's that, but maybe some uk guy could make us more smart!? :x


It's to do with syllables I think, three or more syllables just sounds messy with an 'er' on the end, as it adds on yet another one.

However, some words like the example here 'clever' can have an 'er' added onto the end, but it sounds clumbsy because you have a double 'er'. I don't think there's a particular rule for this, just that 'more clever' sounds better than 'cleverer' although 'cleverest' and 'most clever' are both equally fine.

Typical English though to be fair, it's governed by very few rules, and there are so many exceptions it's a waste of time even bothering to learn them. It's all you Saxons, Vikings and Normans invading us and bollocksing up our language that are to blame. Bastards.
#64 {DnF}3d` aka 10fd4g1r|z ({DnF} )  8 May 2005 17:35Reply
It's a bit harsh to criticise sD for playing defensively imo. Winning a EC 1/2 Final in 3 maps and conceding 0 caps is the ideal result I would've thought. Yes they'll lose to oG in the final, but so would any of the other more "attacking" clans ;>

Btw, you can say the cleverer or the cleverest give in. Not that the phrase on its own really communicates any kind of great logic that provides an alternative way of looking at this situation...but still >_<
#63 iNz*cR4zY-n^ (iNz* )  8 May 2005 15:54Reply
rAzA wrote:
SoLiD wrote:
rAzA wrote:
Someone has to win. And if u follow the phrase "Der Klügere gibt nach!" in english i believe its "The cleverer give in", iNz are the smarter peeps :>.

you mean more clever?

no, it sounds funny, but as google told me, this has to be the correct translation, dunno why


Cleverer is corret term I think, as long as word doesn't have more then 6 letters it can be used with a "er" at end and "est" if you're using superlative. If it's morethen 6 letters then you use "more". Well, I think it's that, but maybe some uk guy could make us more smart!? :x
#62 rAzA (-=I$F=- )  8 May 2005 14:12Reply
SoLiD wrote:
rAzA wrote:
Someone has to win. And if u follow the phrase "Der Klügere gibt nach!" in english i believe its "The cleverer give in", iNz are the smarter peeps :>.

you mean more clever?


no, it sounds funny, but as google told me, this has to be the correct translation, dunno why
#61 SoLiD (LT )  8 May 2005 12:12Reply
rAzA wrote:
Someone has to win. And if u follow the phrase "Der Klügere gibt nach!" in english i believe its "The cleverer give in", iNz are the smarter peeps :>.


you mean more clever?
#60 Qk@c (*f)  8 May 2005 09:52Reply
muEtzE` wrote:
we`ll try our best


best resources? :F
#59 [.Levi*257.] ([.Levi.] )  8 May 2005 07:56Reply
MaNsOn wrote:

Please name me 2 players that can handle all enemies attacks during all map on their own without help


I know them, but i wont tell you!!!111
#58 snakez^ aka sZ (-[FV]-)  8 May 2005 03:18Reply
what if some1 turned around and claimed ''loading rockets is gay, its a lame tactic to get the frag, USE instant rockets or your a lam0r !''

the same thing is happening here dnot u think?
''dont be defencive its lame! play offensive you lam0rs!'' :E

tactics arn't illegal, and they're not lame, they're just differnet :E

look at it this way: if they got 4 defending at one point of the map, they got one attacking :P
#57 muEtzE` (sР)  7 May 2005 23:12Reply
we`ll try our best
#56 KaYoZ (-[oG][- )  7 May 2005 19:44Reply
sting wrote:
...oG are just humans too


thats true!!!
i think it would be a very exciting match
/me is looking forward to face sD!

btw. i think the final is on Thursday
#55 x2.Chrusaor (x2 )  7 May 2005 14:34Reply
muEtzE` wrote:
nobody expected us to reach finals and i think noone wants us to be in finals, thats why , right :P?


i rather reached the finals myself tbh :F
#54 badt vel megoza (`u)  7 May 2005 13:18Reply
gg both.

Expected.
#53 iNz*cR4zY-n^ (iNz* )  7 May 2005 12:32Reply
muEtzE` wrote:
nobody expected us to reach finals and i think noone wants us to be in finals, thats why , right :P?


Yes.
#52 muEtzE` (sР)  7 May 2005 10:48Reply
nobody expected us to reach finals and i think noone wants us to be in finals, thats why , right :P?
#51 EViLRiDER ([*P*] )  7 May 2005 10:44Reply
Ginga_Ninja wrote:
My PC died so I had to build a new one, still installing more essential stuff so IRC will have to come a bit later.

You however still find the time to spam random flames on CB. How very unginger of you ;_;
#50 Duke (*UT*)  7 May 2005 10:09Reply
UrsTheBear wrote:
do i have to apologize for not being a runner like jojo or lzR?

sry we try our best with the ressources we have.


I think it speaks in sD's favour that they wanted to play this game no matter what their team, even with 2 main players missing.
So what if oG are the favourites, you can't blame sD for that.
Only ones here that could blame sD for their tactics are iNz, but they don't. And I don't understand why so many people have to make a problem out of it.
#49 Ginga_Ninja (UK)  7 May 2005 10:01Reply
EViLRiDER wrote:
Ginga, better join IRC instead of this lame flaming, I gotta show you smth


My PC died so I had to build a new one, still installing more essential stuff so IRC will have to come a bit later.
#48 MaNsOn (|NFK| )  7 May 2005 09:47Reply
h0shi wrote:
MaNsOn wrote:
h0shi wrote:
well, i call it a good defense, if there are 2 players, that can handle it alone.
If you need 3 defs and 2 returning attackers on every flagpickup i wouldn't call it "impressive". It's just good old bratwurst.

Please name me 2 players that can handle all enemies attacks during all map on their own without help

if the attack puts enough pressure on the enemy defense, they won't be able to attack too hard.
Anyway, it's something different, to have your teammates help out in critical situations, than having 3 fulltime defenders with 2 attackers shifting to reversegear when the enemy takes the flag.

So, a good defense in my eyes is, if 2 players can handle the enemy attacks MOST of the time on their own. better?


yeah much better ! <img src='http://games.clanbase.com/smiley5.gif' border='0' width='16' height='16' align=absbottom>
#47 EViLRiDER ([*P*] )  7 May 2005 09:33Reply
Ginga, better join IRC instead of this lame flaming, I gotta show you smth
#46 sting (sР)  7 May 2005 07:36Reply
yeh..

and what do we know at the end? sD are newbs, oG are gods..
lmao @ discussion what defense and offense is better or worse

we'll try to give oG a hard fight and maybe the noname newbs called sD can surprise on some maps because the allmighty heroes of oG are just humans too
#45 Ginga_Ninja (UK)  7 May 2005 03:01Reply
UrsTheBear wrote:
do i have to apologize for not being a runner like jojo or lzR?

sry we try our best with the ressources we have.


I could make a comment about muetze and resources here, but I wouldn't sink so low. <img src='http://games.clanbase.com/smiley4.gif' border='0' width='16' height='16' align=absbottom>
#44 od (UK)  7 May 2005 02:50Reply
idd if sD's defense can hold vulc+lzr with 23 on mid i'd be surprised, and if their off can beat kayoz+azyd i'd ALSO be surprised....

/me predicts 5-0's :<<<
#43 duran (LT )  7 May 2005 02:22Reply
h0shi wrote:
well, i call it a good defense, if there are 2 players, that can handle it alone.
If you need 3 defs and 2 returning attackers on every flagpickup i wouldn't call it "impressive". It's just good old bratwurst.


as if looza / 23 never go on retrieval when a flag is missing
#42 UrsTheBear (sР)  7 May 2005 01:46Reply
do i have to apologize for not being a runner like jojo or lzR?

sry we try our best with the ressources we have.
#41 h0shi (-[oG][- )  6 May 2005 22:54Reply
MaNsOn wrote:
h0shi wrote:
well, i call it a good defense, if there are 2 players, that can handle it alone.
If you need 3 defs and 2 returning attackers on every flagpickup i wouldn't call it "impressive". It's just good old bratwurst.

Please name me 2 players that can handle all enemies attacks during all map on their own without help


if the attack puts enough pressure on the enemy defense, they won't be able to attack too hard.
Anyway, it's something different, to have your teammates help out in critical situations, than having 3 fulltime defenders with 2 attackers shifting to reversegear when the enemy takes the flag.

So, a good defense in my eyes is, if 2 players can handle the enemy attacks MOST of the time on their own. better?
#40 Ginga_Ninja (UK)  6 May 2005 21:43Reply
sith wrote:
liverpool is using the same tactic.. and they are in the final too now..

dont see the problem


Liverpool have good attackers....
#39 KaYoZ (-[oG][- )  6 May 2005 20:57Reply
devereux - azyd!!!
#38 Siri ([k])  6 May 2005 20:52Reply
Hackie.nl wrote:
sÐ had some members problems, as one of their main players, muEtzE, broke his fingers the day before the war.
I thought he didn't need his fingers to aim .


xDDD

gl in final sD =)
#37 MaNsOn (|NFK| )  6 May 2005 19:28Reply
h0shi wrote:
well, i call it a good defense, if there are 2 players, that can handle it alone.
If you need 3 defs and 2 returning attackers on every flagpickup i wouldn't call it "impressive". It's just good old bratwurst.


Please name me 2 players that can handle all enemies attacks during all map on their own without help
#36 cAze! (.vNe\)  6 May 2005 19:27Reply
Congratz to next EC, oG][
#35 Rayden (-][FIG][- )  6 May 2005 18:19Reply
sith wrote:
liverpool is using the same tactic.. and they are in the final too now..

dont see the problem


yeah and the liverpool players also plays for free.
#34 sith (sР)  6 May 2005 17:15Reply
liverpool is using the same tactic.. and they are in the final too now..

dont see the problem <img src='http://games.clanbase.com/smiley5.gif' border='0' width='16' height='16' align=absbottom>
#33 rAzA (-=I$F=- )  6 May 2005 17:12Reply
Someone has to win. And if u follow the phrase "Der Klügere gibt nach!" in english i believe its "The cleverer give in", iNz are the smarter peeps :>.
#32 sting (sР)  6 May 2005 15:37Reply
h0shi wrote:
well, i call it a good defense, if there are 2 players, that can handle it alone.
If you need 3 defs and 2 returning attackers on every flagpickup i wouldn't call it "impressive". It's just good old bratwurst.


i would call it smart, nothing else
the win showed it was the right tactic in this match
#31 sith (sР)  6 May 2005 14:15Reply
thx m8 <img src='http://games.clanbase.com/smiley1.gif' border='0' width='16' height='16' align=absbottom>
#30 KaYoZ (-[oG][- )  6 May 2005 13:32Reply
gg, espeacially sith!
#29 h0shi (-[oG][- )  6 May 2005 12:38Reply
well, i call it a good defense, if there are 2 players, that can handle it alone.
If you need 3 defs and 2 returning attackers on every flagpickup i wouldn't call it "impressive". It's just good old bratwurst.
#28 iNz*cR4zY-n^ (iNz* )  6 May 2005 12:31Reply
You can't win a Championship if you don't win game.

But if artificial fella wins it for you, it makes sense.
#27 azad^ (fd`)  6 May 2005 12:30Reply
oG has the best def+off so it seems to be a very interesting game ;P

go azyd^! ;o
#26 sting (sР)  6 May 2005 11:56Reply
Axey wrote:
Interesting final

Offensive Gaming vs Defensive Gaming


Offense wins Games, Defense wins Championships

gg inz

maniii wrote:
sting rox


wow is skill practise
#25 maniii (LT )  6 May 2005 10:25Reply
sting rox
#24 muEtzE` (sР)  6 May 2005 09:50Reply
lock` wrote:
:P probaly gonne be a walk in the park for oG here :P i doubt sD has the defensive ability to keep 23 + vulc + lzr out of the base as fragass, their main defender, had trouble with hackie + bunneh :E

yes of course we will lose very high coz we suck m8 gggggg
#23 lock` (sku)  6 May 2005 02:27Reply
:P probaly gonne be a walk in the park for oG here :P i doubt sD has the defensive ability to keep 23 + vulc + lzr out of the base as fragass, their main defender, had trouble with hackie + bunneh :E
#22 iNz*cR4zY-n^ (iNz* )  5 May 2005 21:23Reply
muEtzE` wrote:
~de.øwNeR~ wrote:
TJA, WIN GEHT WOHL NUR MIT DE cF4 =PPPPP
gg guys
rofl


PS:
cR4
PSS:
(22:40:29) (de|SouL) rofl cheating does not ONLY make smaller dicks but also brains? :P

MORD.
#21 iNz*cR4zY-n^ (iNz* )  5 May 2005 21:20Reply
GGs sD, nice match, thx UTV. Server unfortunately reminded me of ISDN days. :/
#20 iNz*KOSTAKi (iNz* )  5 May 2005 16:39Reply
gg sD

we are looking for a good mid player or a very good defender. please mail me kostaki@inzane.de
#19 muEtzE` (sР)  5 May 2005 16:32Reply
~de.øwNeR~ wrote:
TJA, WIN GEHT WOHL NUR MIT DE cF4 =PPPPP
gg guys

rofl
#18 ~de.øwNeR~ (~de.~ )  5 May 2005 14:24Reply
TJA, WIN GEHT WOHL NUR MIT DE cF4 =PPPPP

gg guys
#17 ~de.m/s$aKa~ (~de.~ )  5 May 2005 14:21Reply
hrhr gg cF4 :P DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
#16 Belemil ([fp.] )  5 May 2005 13:49Reply
Axey wrote:
Interesting final

Offensive Gaming vs Defensive Gaming


bulls eye
#15 [.Levi*257.] ([.Levi.] )  5 May 2005 13:34Reply
gg
#14 Qk@c (*f)  5 May 2005 13:03Reply
Hackie.nl wrote:
sÐ had some members problems, as one of their main players, muEtzE, broke his fingers the day before the war.
I thought he didn't need his fingers to aim .


ROFL OWNED
#13 Qk@c (*f)  5 May 2005 13:02Reply
Axey wrote:
Interesting final

Offensive Gaming vs Defensive Gaming


or 5 att vs 5 def :F
#12 Hackie.nl (NL)  5 May 2005 13:00Reply
sÐ had some members problems, as one of their main players, muEtzE, broke his fingers the day before the war.

I thought he didn't need his fingers to aim <img src='http://games.clanbase.com/smiley2.gif' border='0' width='16' height='16' align=absbottom> <img src='http://games.clanbase.com/smiley6.gif' border='0' width='16' height='16' align=absbottom>.
#11 muEtzE` (sР)  5 May 2005 12:59Reply
.ez'genai. wrote:
rofl... that must be some retarted shit if you are not joking...


i guess sith`s comment achieved his aim :P
#10 .ez'genai. (.ez' )  5 May 2005 12:32Reply
sith wrote:
gg iNz

and at all whiners..

YES, we play defensiv but WE are in the final not u hahaha :P


rofl... that must be some retarted shit if you are not joking...
#9 mYthos.o2 (o2 )  5 May 2005 12:25Reply
Axey wrote:
Interesting final

Offensive Gaming vs Defensive Gaming


haha idd
#8 ~P1mP^~ (-<TCF>-)  5 May 2005 12:12Reply
gg's , i hope sD can do some damage vs oG! i was pretty surprised that iNz reached the semi-finals... but well done iNz anyways!

breaking your finger before a semi-final eurocup ^^
#7 sith (sР)  5 May 2005 11:37Reply
if mütze is back i can attack vs hans !
#6 x2.Chrusaor (x2 )  5 May 2005 11:34Reply
we had 1 great chance on cyno, but unfortunaly sith gave me a a snipeshot so i only had like 33 health after crazy got killed and lost the flag. at the same time sith killed cra he got a spree so i didnt notice at first, took to long to grab the flag couldnt make the ih jump anymore and the only chance we got on that map was lost.

wp sD and gl vs oG if u keep ur def tight we can expect a close 5 mapper of 0-0 all the way :f coz kay + azyd > scream + urs
#5 Axey (MPD)  5 May 2005 11:34Reply
Interesting final

Offensive Gaming vs Defensive Gaming
#4 muEtzE` (sР)  5 May 2005 11:24Reply
gg
#3 duran (LT )  5 May 2005 11:17Reply
Great job my germans

...but 1-0 on Ranel wtf!
#2 sith (sР)  5 May 2005 11:03Reply
gg iNz

and at all whiners..

YES, we play defensiv but WE are in the final not u hahaha :P
#1 EViLRiDER ([*P*] )  5 May 2005 10:45Reply
gg both
wp sD, please start practicing again before the final and let us have an open and exciting game :E


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