«[re°BotoX]» (re  ) 25 May 2012 21:30 | Reply |
«[re°Sander]» wrote:
'weird symbol' kiri 'bullshit symbols' robot 'more bullshit symbols'
NICE MAN.. you people (and yes i mean that in the most derogatory way) make me visit clanbase once in a while..
just for the fun of it
You are my hero broSan ! |
| «[re°Sander]» (re ) 25 May 2012 21:25 | Reply |
'weird symbol' kiri 'bullshit symbols' robot 'more bullshit symbols'
NICE MAN.. you people (and yes i mean that in the most derogatory way) make me visit clanbase once in a while..
just for the fun of it |
-LiD-Vö|canic  (-LiD-  ) 25 May 2012 12:11 | Reply |
#50 wooohooo
voted OMMIE :P |
DeV~ (cLoSE  ) 25 May 2012 10:41 | Reply |
apparently some people spend a 'bit' more time with reading rules than interpreting it
so sad but always the same, nothing unexpected 
yellow it is btw
(rule part A says it's red, rule part B defines an exception -> yellow)
ps.: 24 hours rule never existed for cups |
| K!tt!é (oD) 25 May 2012 09:15 | Reply |
Soulja wrote:
just let the first 3 in a group reach the playoffs and all are happy x'D
LOL |
| Soulja (oD) 25 May 2012 07:44 | Reply |
just let the first 3 in a group reach the playoffs and all are happy x'D |
| r4mpage ({UiA}) 25 May 2012 06:17 | Reply |
Azrael~ wrote:
saNta^ wrote:
i think they added ommie after matchtime
Are you sure? Cause it would have been 51 mins before matchtime in uk 
damn that makes it legit  |
| Azrael~ (-LiD- ) 25 May 2012 03:42 | Reply |
saNta^ wrote:
i think they added ommie after matchtime
Are you sure? Cause it would have been 51 mins before matchtime in uk |
| saNta^ (Fc ) 25 May 2012 01:06 | Reply |
i think they added ommie after matchtime |
| Diablo ({Ui} ) 24 May 2012 23:34 | Reply |
caspa wrote:
didn't know someone could be that desperate for a win
What about Tomek? |
| caspa (smd.) 24 May 2012 22:30 | Reply |
didn't know someone could be that desperate for a win |
[GD]My-T-sHarP ([GD]2  ) 24 May 2012 21:43 | Reply |
riots in greece, spain, now also on CB \o/ |
| °kírì^».gr!/°róbòt^».gr! (oD) 24 May 2012 21:27 | Reply |
[ST2]DavVador wrote:
°kírì^».gr!/°róbòt^».gr! wrote:
the thing is OMMIE was never allowed to play...who allowed him to play this war??? i doubt that the SUPS of this cup told u "yea np add him 9 MINS AFTER MATCHTIME TO YOUR CLANROSTER AND THEN ADD HIM ALSO TO THE APL WE WILL ALLOW IT"...are u freaking kidding me??
He would have been allowed to be added to the APL (thus would have no problem going through the new member procedure).
Which is enough to let him play this war and only get a yellow card.
but to go through all this "apl member procedure" u need to add him to your clan first...now, adding him to your clan and i repeat AFTER MATCHTIME and filling out the formular AGAIN AFTER MATCHTIME thats legal ??? how can this be a legal rule??? |
| °kírì^».gr!/°róbòt^».gr! (oD) 24 May 2012 21:25 | Reply |
but the thing is, the official matchtime of the WAR started at 21...everyone knew whos allowed to play and who not...why do we get generated emails with APL of both clans?? now how can this rule effect that someone can add a player AFTER MATCHTIME and still consider to be allowed to play???
you can do the player procedure, thats fine...but the war started and you adding the player after the matchtime,then doing the APL procedure and u are still allowed to play??? the other clan is waiting like idiots to get fucked up so easially??? |
| K!tt!é (oD) 24 May 2012 21:22 | Reply |
seems like rules are just there to be broken ^^ |
| [ST2]DavVador ([ST2] ) 24 May 2012 21:20 | Reply |
°kírì^».gr!/°róbòt^».gr! wrote:
the thing is OMMIE was never allowed to play...who allowed him to play this war??? i doubt that the SUPS of this cup told u "yea np add him 9 MINS AFTER MATCHTIME TO YOUR CLANROSTER AND THEN ADD HIM ALSO TO THE APL WE WILL ALLOW IT"...are u freaking kidding me??
He would have been allowed to be added to the APL (thus would have no problem going through the new member procedure).
Which is enough to let him play this war and only get a yellow card. |
| [ST2]DavVador ([ST2] ) 24 May 2012 21:17 | Reply |
°kírì^».gr!/°róbòt^».gr! wrote:
u should read the rules properly...
1st:
IF u add a player to your clan, there is a 24h rule WHICH U BROKE...
2nd:
A player must be on the Allowed Playerlist (APL) before being allowed to play a match. WHICH U ALSO BROKE
3rd:
a player must be added to your clan roster as well as to the APL before the official starting time. GUESS WHAT, U BROKE THAT RULE TOO CAUSE U ADDED OMMIE 9MINS AFTER WARTIME
all those broke rules results to a red card and a forfeit win for us...a player cant be allowed to play when u add him 9mins after matchtime...are u kidding me??? seriously...we are not playing this game for the first time to know those simple rules...
red card and forfeit win for us is the only option according to the rules, if admins decides anything else, that would be a major joke
You should read it properly aswell.
Rule 5.6 is very clear :
A player must be on the Allowed Playerlist (APL) before being allowed to play a match. That means, a player must be added to your clan roster as well as to the APL before the official starting time, the scheduled start time of the match shown on the wid page. If a player plays who isn't on the APL the clan will receive a Red card and a forfeit loss. When a player would have been allowed to be added to the APL (thus would have no problem going through the new member procedure) the clan will only get a Yellow card and the match result will not be changed.
Let me detail it more :
"If a player plays who isn't on the APL the clan will receive a Red card and a forfeit loss."
At this point, they should receive a red card, but the rule makes an exception :
"When a player would have been allowed to be added to the APL (thus would have no problem going through the new member procedure) the clan will only get a Yellow card and the match result will not be changed."
At the time of the war, the player wasnt in the APL, but would have been allowed to be added to the APL, thus this should end with a yellow card and no match result changed.
Cups sups will give their decision, but i don't see how they can interpret this rule differently. |
Razorkill.UTzone (UTzone  ) 24 May 2012 20:29 | Reply |
Whatever....21:09 is 21:09
Matchbegin is 21:00
Servertest 20:30
In or Out in APL...he only could be there after 21:09.So he couldn`t play on an 21:00 Match.....for me |
| °kírì^».gr!/°róbòt^».gr! (oD) 24 May 2012 20:19 | Reply |
just read the newsitem about APL from itdm:
#19 °kírì^».gr!/°róbòt^».gr! (oD) 1 Apr 13:15 Edit |
oD: whole team except: BlackFire,L!b3ràTé,p4CmAn,Puki,°iMMo^»,°MâtZké^»,ooB,raptile,unrealer,nina,polonium,crunk,
sool,pandu,nanstuko,kusak,exzero,eklips,senna
well basically only: anabol,xazor,deaod and kiri
as u see i registered only anabol,xazor,deaod and me for the itdm cup...i dont know why the whole clan is in the APL |
| Hazzle (re ) 24 May 2012 19:56 | Reply |
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| °kírì^».gr!/°róbòt^».gr! (oD) 24 May 2012 19:49 | Reply |
Hazzle wrote:
Ripper is not our war arranger. You knew we wouldnt be able to play ictf on wednesday, which is the reason the game got delayed so much in the first place. Which is the reason we had to play with Shaggy2dope and recruit OMMIE.
What makes it even more lame, is that you had 5 players available for the itdm, but decided to forfeit.
who did i have available for the itdm match???
kittie not on the apl
soulja not on the apl
kusak playing for u2w in div2
so who exactly did i have for the itdm match?? xazor could be here only for the ictf match and as u saw pandu and anabol both were missing...so hard to play an itdm match with no players |
| Hazzle (re ) 24 May 2012 19:39 | Reply |
Ripper is not our war arranger. You knew we wouldnt be able to play ictf on wednesday, which is the reason the game got delayed so much in the first place. Which is the reason we had to play with Shaggy2dope and recruit OMMIE.
What makes it even more lame, is that you had 5 players available for the itdm, but decided to forfeit. |
| °kírì^».gr!/°róbòt^».gr! (oD) 24 May 2012 19:31 | Reply |
Hazzle wrote:
No kiri you are not rulefucking at all. you really deserved the win.
On a sidenote, can you please tell me how you tricked the sups into forcing the game on wednesday even when you knew we wouldnt have enough players available?
why am i rulefucking?? is playing by the rules rulefucking for u??? i didnt tricked any sups...just read the talk i had with ripper on sunday about this match:
22:06:47) (kiri) about the ictf match vs ug uys
(22:06:53) (kiri) we rechallenged u for wednesday
(22:06:59) (kiri) cause thats the only day we can play
(22:07:14) (garuDa) can we play the itdm then as well perhaps?
(22:07:20) (garuDa) an hour earlier?
(22:07:21) (kiri) sure
(22:07:25) (kiri) np
(22:07:34) (garuDa) would be nice i think
(22:07:54) (kiri) np we will be here for ictf and 1 hour earlier should be ok with us
(22:08:04) (garuDa) ok
(22:48:52) • garuDa (garuDa@5249C895.cm-4-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has left IRC (Read error: EOF from client)
Session Close: Sun May 20 23:17:46 2012
as u see i dont need to trick anything |
| Hazzle (re ) 24 May 2012 19:23 | Reply |
No kiri you are not rulefucking at all. you really deserved the win.
On a sidenote, can you please tell me how you tricked the sups into forcing the game on wednesday even when you knew we wouldnt have enough players available? |
| °kírì^».gr!/°róbòt^».gr! (oD) 24 May 2012 19:17 | Reply |
the part that hazzle highlighted IS IN THE SAME RULE...its quiet logical that u need to follow the first sentences in that rule before talking about the last one...u just cant broke the 1st part and then the 2nd part of the rule and expect the last part which suits you the most effects the whole rule... |
| NC|D.E.N.K. (NC| ) 24 May 2012 19:13 | Reply |
Check the part Hazzle highlighted. OMMIE would have been allowed to be added to the APL.
There is a table in the rules where you can see if OMMIE would have been allowed to be added to the APL. In that APL there is no mention of "has to be on the clanroster in time".
Therefor the part you highlighted and the part Hazzle highlighted collide with each other. So you are both right and wrong, therefor nothing will happen to the result...
Again: I saw this a few seasons ago in a UT cup and that's what the CoC's said back then...
@ santa: NO DENKING! |
| saNta^ (Fc ) 24 May 2012 19:06 | Reply |
no denking ? |
| °kírì^».gr!/°róbòt^».gr! (oD) 24 May 2012 19:06 | Reply |
NC|D.E.N.K. wrote:
Hazzle is right
Nowhere in the rules does it say that the player has to be on the clanroster, it's a flaw in the rules...
nowhere in the rules???
That means, a player must be added to your clan roster as well as to the APL before the official starting time, the scheduled start time of the match shown on the wid page. If a player plays who isn't on the APL the clan will receive a Red card and a forfeit loss.
MUST BE ADDED TO YOUR CLAN ROSTER AS WELL AS TO THE APL BEEEEEEEEFOOOOOOOREEEEEEEEEE THE OFFICIAL STARTINT TIME...
both things didnt happend, logical result as u your already said correctly denk is: RED CARD AND FORFEIT WIN |
| NC|D.E.N.K. (NC| ) 24 May 2012 18:58 | Reply |
Hazzle is right
Nowhere in the rules does it say that the player has to be on the clanroster, it's a flaw in the rules... (it was abused a few seasons ago aswell in UT, I believe. Yes, "abused" - because if we think logically this should result in a red card and a forfeit loss, but seeing there is a flaw in the rules, it's only yellow) |
| Kîng! (uniQ ) 24 May 2012 18:45 | Reply |
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| °kírì^».gr!/°róbòt^».gr! (oD) 24 May 2012 18:43 | Reply |
you already broke the first 2 sentences in that rule and still quoting the last sentence??? seriously???
even if u quote the last one, u should know that it only applys IF OMMIE WAS ADDED TO YOUR CLANROSTER BEFORE THE MATCHTIME, in this case he wasnt so red card and forfeit win for us |
| °kírì^».gr!/°róbòt^».gr! (oD) 24 May 2012 18:40 | Reply |
the thing is OMMIE was never allowed to play...who allowed him to play this war??? i doubt that the SUPS of this cup told u "yea np add him 9 MINS AFTER MATCHTIME TO YOUR CLANROSTER AND THEN ADD HIM ALSO TO THE APL WE WILL ALLOW IT"...are u freaking kidding me??
u really think u are going away with this?? even if u add him to the apl an admin still needs to confirm it...fact is u just cant go around adding players after matchtime and still expect to get ONLY A YELLOW CARD out of it...come on, are u playing this game for the 1st time??
the only correct punishment is red card and forfeit win for my team, they broke clearly the rule, giving them a yellow card ONLY is bullshit... |
| Hazzle (re ) 24 May 2012 18:33 | Reply |
°kírì^».gr!/°róbòt^».gr! wrote:
lets quote some rules from the cup here shall we:
A player must be on the Allowed Playerlist (APL) before being allowed to play a match. That means, a player must be added to your clan roster as well as to the APL before the official starting time, the scheduled start time of the match shown on the wid page. If a player plays who isn't on the APL the clan will receive a Red card and a forfeit loss.
ommie wasnt on the APL and u added him 9 mins AFTER wartime...according to the rules which i quoted u broke everything in this rule...despites the 24h rule after adding a player...which u also broke...so explain me how was ommie allowed to play?? no freaking way he was allowed to play...i mean seriously adding a player 9mins after wartime and still he is allowed to play would be mega pathetic...
oD should win 4-0 by forfeit cause re broke the rule...i hope admins will decide correctly on this one, cause the rule about it is quiet abvious...
I will try again. You selected a part of the rule, this is the entire rule:
A player must be on the Allowed Playerlist (APL) before being allowed to play a match. That means, a player must be added to your clan roster as well as to the APL before the official starting time, the scheduled start time of the match shown on the wid page. If a player plays who isn't on the APL the clan will receive a Red card and a forfeit loss. When a player would have been allowed to be added to the APL (thus would have no problem going through the new member procedure) the clan will only get a Yellow card and the match result will not be changed. |
| r4mpage ({UiA}) 24 May 2012 18:09 | Reply |
I love you ommie but Re wtf where you thinking :P idiotic move if you ever had a slight idea to get away with this :P |
| Våder ({Ui} ) 24 May 2012 17:47 | Reply |
funny how redefined is rulefucking and claiming its all been legit haha
get on noobs |
| «[re°Shaggy2Dope]» (re ) 24 May 2012 17:02 | Reply |
where were u rici? now even i had to play ffs. |
| [AcAi].Fuer$ aka SchRanZ^ ([AcAi] ) 24 May 2012 16:33 | Reply |
sometimes i am really glad i am playing only cb matches in 2k4 coz it seems everyone is breaking the rules and calling "rule fackers" the ones that plays by the rules.
such a pathetic community. see ya in playoffs... |
| {UE}RicicleS! ({UE} ) 24 May 2012 16:21 | Reply |
Such drama! With such a small community you guys shouldn't hate so much. This all would've been avoided if I was online last night  |
| °kírì^».gr!/°róbòt^».gr! (oD) 24 May 2012 16:14 | Reply |
caspa wrote:
24h rule only applys to ladders
even if that rule only applys to ladders, they still broke the rule by adding him not before WARTIME...they added him 9 mins after the official WARTIME...which results into a red card and forfeit win for us |
| caspa (smd.) 24 May 2012 16:01 | Reply |
24h rule only applys to ladders |
| RìppéR (re ) 24 May 2012 16:00 | Reply |
How the hell did this war get forced to wednesday btw? |
| °kírì^».gr!/°róbòt^».gr! (oD) 24 May 2012 15:59 | Reply |
«[re°Shaggy2Dope]» wrote:
Haha i knew it, wars vs oD always ends up beeing 2 wars. 1 in UT and 1 on IRC/CB cause they prefer to rulefuck you to win.
Lucky that we knew oD was gonne be like this upfront and checked the rules.
Kiri, here from the rules "When a player would have been allowed to be added to the APL (thus would have no problem going through the new member procedure) the clan will only get a Yellow card and the match result will not be changed."
So now u lost the UT war and the rulefuck war!
GG
that rule applies ONLY IF HE IS ON YOUR CLANROSTER BEFORE WARTIME...u cant add a player after WARTIME and still expect him to be allowed, are u serious??? what do u expect?? add a player after wartime, go through the APLsystem and still thinking that he is allowed to play??? COME ON...even OMMIE got a message when he accepted to join re "YOU HAVE TO WAIT 24h BEFORE U PLAY OFFICIAL MATCHES"....
red card and forfeit win for oD...we are not trying to rulefuck here, u are the ones who try desperate to rulefuck here |
| °kírì^».gr!/°róbòt^».gr! (oD) 24 May 2012 15:54 | Reply |
u should read the rules properly...
1st:
IF u add a player to your clan, there is a 24h rule WHICH U BROKE...
2nd:
A player must be on the Allowed Playerlist (APL) before being allowed to play a match. WHICH U ALSO BROKE
3rd:
a player must be added to your clan roster as well as to the APL before the official starting time. GUESS WHAT, U BROKE THAT RULE TOO CAUSE U ADDED OMMIE 9MINS AFTER WARTIME
all those broke rules results to a red card and a forfeit win for us...a player cant be allowed to play when u add him 9mins after matchtime...are u kidding me??? seriously...we are not playing this game for the first time to know those simple rules...
red card and forfeit win for us is the only option according to the rules, if admins decides anything else, that would be a major joke |
| «[re°Shaggy2Dope]» (re ) 24 May 2012 15:52 | Reply |
Haha i knew it, wars vs oD always ends up beeing 2 wars. 1 in UT and 1 on IRC/CB cause they prefer to rulefuck you to win.
Lucky that we knew oD was gonne be like this upfront and checked the rules.
Kiri, here from the rules "When a player would have been allowed to be added to the APL (thus would have no problem going through the new member procedure) the clan will only get a Yellow card and the match result will not be changed."
So now u lost the UT war and the rulefuck war!
GG |
| Hazzle (re ) 24 May 2012 15:27 | Reply |
°kírì^».gr!/°róbòt^».gr! wrote:
lets quote some rules from the cup here shall we:
A player must be on the Allowed Playerlist (APL) before being allowed to play a match. That means, a player must be added to your clan roster as well as to the APL before the official starting time, the scheduled start time of the match shown on the wid page. If a player plays who isn't on the APL the clan will receive a Red card and a forfeit loss.
ommie wasnt on the APL and u added him 9 mins AFTER wartime...according to the rules which i quoted u broke everything in this rule...despites the 24h rule after adding a player...which u also broke...so explain me how was ommie allowed to play?? no freaking way he was allowed to play...i mean seriously adding a player 9mins after wartime and still he is allowed to play would be mega pathetic...
oD should win 4-0 by forfeit cause re broke the rule...i hope admins will decide correctly on this one, cause the rule about it is quiet abvious...
Nice try noob, cant win in game even when you know we dont have enough members, so you try rulefucking and still lose.
A player who played a match for a clan whilst not being on the Allowed Players List will receive the following punishment for player and clan:
- If the player would have been allowed to play, but was not on the Allowed Players List then the clan and player receive a Yellow Card.
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| saNta^ (Fc ) 24 May 2012 15:15 | Reply |
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| °kírì^».gr!/°róbòt^».gr! (oD) 24 May 2012 15:11 | Reply |
lets quote some rules from the cup here shall we:
A player must be on the Allowed Playerlist (APL) before being allowed to play a match. That means, a player must be added to your clan roster as well as to the APL before the official starting time, the scheduled start time of the match shown on the wid page. If a player plays who isn't on the APL the clan will receive a Red card and a forfeit loss.
ommie wasnt on the APL and u added him 9 mins AFTER wartime...according to the rules which i quoted u broke everything in this rule...despites the 24h rule after adding a player...which u also broke...so explain me how was ommie allowed to play?? no freaking way he was allowed to play...i mean seriously adding a player 9mins after wartime and still he is allowed to play would be mega pathetic...
oD should win 4-0 by forfeit cause re broke the rule...i hope admins will decide correctly on this one, cause the rule about it is quiet abvious... |
| Hazzle (re ) 24 May 2012 12:13 | Reply |
what problem? Ommie was allowed to play, we only added him late which would result in a yellow card. #care
This game wasnt supposed to be played yesterday anyway, oD you guys are pathetic. |
SeeK  (ClanBase Crew) 24 May 2012 11:35 | Reply |
supervisors will take care of the problem tonight |
| K!tt!é (oD) 24 May 2012 10:51 | Reply |
gg oD wins :> |
| Våder ({Ui} ) 24 May 2012 10:31 | Reply |
nice one, voted ommie! :> |
| Soulja (oD) 24 May 2012 07:51 | Reply |
gg, re was just better.
but:
May 23, 21:09 Added member(s) OMMIE
ommie was added to re even 9 mins after official war time and played this match?!?! not to mention hes not in the APL. hm... |
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