UT2004 TAM 4v4 OC Spring 2012


Div1 SemiFinals + Div 2 Finals + missing results from Div3
by: DavVador
Update :
Div 1 semi finals are now opened.

Div 2 is reaching the final stage !

The Great Final will oppose Sp to Alöha and the Bronze final will be played between FG and cK.
You can now start challenging your wars ;)


In div 3, there's a missing result for the war St vs Jnoob, it would be nice if you could enter the result or give me some more infos about it, thanks.

Good Luck !


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#24 Velouria ([St.])  12 Jun 2012 20:08
rob <3
#23 NudeGirl ClanBase Crew member (ClanBase Crew)  12 Jun 2012 18:22
Refl wrote:
The proof is pretty simple. War should have been played last thursday. 4-5 days later, monday, the above news item is published, stating DavVador (the supervisor) is unaware about the match, doesn't know IF it's been played, and WHAT the outcome would be. If he knew what was going on, he wouldn't have put it in the news item, or only stated "St vs Jnoobz will be played then and then". When Velouria comments here that it will be played later, you confirm it in public, showing you didn't know and they were 4 days late.

Because i wasnt aware at that time doesnt mean they didnt contact me.
You have absolutely no valid proof showing they didnt contact me, unless you can hack my mail and cb pms.

Refl wrote:
This is against the rules, therefor I expect you to do something about it. I am not gonna let SeeK fuck over FG with rules and then let others get away with it just because you feel like it. YOU are SO strict about the rules. So follow them Dav. "Else it's just a public game. You need to be responsible. Signing up means knowing the rules".

We are not playing either of the clans. It's not fair. You want to play by rules, you get it.
Made screens as proof for Chief of Cups, so no need to change the news item now.

Finally, the Lampje-thing is getting old. Try something new please.

I honestly dont care what you think about it, i wont put a double forfeit on this war where both team agreed to play.
Contact anyone you want, this wont change.
PiyoniR (co Chief of Cups) even gave his opinion a few posts before, so keep dreaming on a double forfeit.
#22 SeeK (Sp )  12 Jun 2012 17:10
Refl wrote:
Ok, so if both clans agree to play on a different date without notifying the supervisor, and breaking the rules, it's great.

Then lets decide we won't use crappy Wrex in the final. If both teams decide, we can ignore that rule aswell. If we both want to use aimbots, we can decide aswell. Who gives a crap about the rules?

The proof is pretty simple. War should have been played last thursday. 4-5 days later, monday, the above news item is published, stating DavVador (the supervisor) is unaware about the match, doesn't know IF it's been played, and WHAT the outcome would be. If he knew what was going on, he wouldn't have put it in the news item, or only stated "St vs Jnoobz will be played then and then". When Velouria comments here that it will be played later, you confirm it in public, showing you didn't know and they were 4 days late.

This is against the rules, therefor I expect you to do something about it. I am not gonna let SeeK fuck over FG with rules and then let others get away with it just because you feel like it. YOU are SO strict about the rules. So follow them Dav. "Else it's just a public game. You need to be responsible. Signing up means knowing the rules".

We are not playing either of the clans. It's not fair. You want to play by rules, you get it.
Made screens as proof for Chief of Cups, so no need to change the news item now.

Finally, the Lampje-thing is getting old. Try something new please.


#21 Refl ([Eß] )  12 Jun 2012 12:26
Ok, so if both clans agree to play on a different date without notifying the supervisor, and breaking the rules, it's great.

Then lets decide we won't use crappy Wrex in the final. If both teams decide, we can ignore that rule aswell. If we both want to use aimbots, we can decide aswell. Who gives a crap about the rules?

The proof is pretty simple. War should have been played last thursday. 4-5 days later, monday, the above news item is published, stating DavVador (the supervisor) is unaware about the match, doesn't know IF it's been played, and WHAT the outcome would be. If he knew what was going on, he wouldn't have put it in the news item, or only stated "St vs Jnoobz will be played then and then". When Velouria comments here that it will be played later, you confirm it in public, showing you didn't know and they were 4 days late.

This is against the rules, therefor I expect you to do something about it. I am not gonna let SeeK fuck over FG with rules and then let others get away with it just because you feel like it. YOU are SO strict about the rules. So follow them Dav. "Else it's just a public game. You need to be responsible. Signing up means knowing the rules".

We are not playing either of the clans. It's not fair. You want to play by rules, you get it.
Made screens as proof for Chief of Cups, so no need to change the news item now.

Finally, the Lampje-thing is getting old. Try something new please.
#20 NudeGirl ClanBase Crew member (ClanBase Crew)  12 Jun 2012 11:32
Refl wrote:
You should use common sense that Jean = Jean in the FG match.

OH WAIT.

And i forgot, if CB accepted common sense as a proof, then you should be banned for life with this account.
Refl = lampje is common sense aswell.
#19 NudeGirl ClanBase Crew member (ClanBase Crew)  12 Jun 2012 11:06
killalot0 wrote:
Hey, Clanbase what about the rules now? Two clans blatantly refused to play on a forced date. How is that fair to other clans that did not have their best lineup when they honoured their dates? Forgetting that we actually had to wildcard, because you supervisors wrongly excluded one of our players from the cup. Rules you held so dear on that FG vs sp match, remember? Are we going to follow the rules strickly or are we going to use some common sense and not cling on to some rules like someone with an obsessive -compulsive personality disorder. *If by any chance you misunderstood me, "Yes I'm perfectly fine with them resceduling. I want to play the best clan in the finals not some clan that got there by no shows or "a lucky break".

I'm not sure i understand what you are talking about.

I'll suppose you are talking about St vs Jnoob war being not played on the forced date.
If both teams agreed on playing on tuesday, it's no problem at all, look at all the news item in this cup, each times wars were forced i gave everyone the opportunity to reschedule freely if both teams agree on another date.
There is no exception here, if they both agree they can play on any other date.
I've been forcing many wars and i re-forced them often to other dates when i got asked after an agreement.

In your case, your team had to play the war at the forced date, because no agreement between the 2 clans were found.
This is a total different situation.


killalot0 wrote:
The sum
Wildcards can't be used.
The supervisors knew nothing until monday.
Monday 11 june is not 1 day before the match.
clanbase crew uses their rules as they see fit.

Do you see a rule disallowing me to force a war by myself to another day ?
Did you check my mail, my cb pm or My-T-sHárP's ones ?


Refl wrote:
Why is this guy an admin? :')

Tbh, I rather play St or JnoobZ, but seeing how admins bend the rules to their favor (SeeK the CB admin playing with Sp) I'd like to see them get the rage of these clans by following the rules and giving them a double forfeit.

Seek isnt admin in the TAM cup.
You've been cup sup of an hosted cup and didnt went to the end (you simply gave up without a word and i had to replace you) so you are no one to tell us how we should procede.
You are a returned while banned cheater so your opinion means nothing to me.

Refl wrote:
You should use common sense that Jean = Jean in the FG match.

OH WAIT.

No IP match, no GUID match.
Where is common sense ?
#18 [St.]eNg ([St.])  12 Jun 2012 10:57
We would of played last week but JNoob had a player or 2 sick....

Im pretty sick..Minded but U KNOW!!!!!!

<3 vel xxxxx
#17 Refl ([Eß] )  12 Jun 2012 10:05
SeeK wrote:
killalot0 wrote:
I skimmed the rules and found these

9. Rule 6

Wildcards can not be used for playoff matches. A playoff match can only be postponed by decision of the supervisor. Problems that affect only 1 player will never be sufficient reason to postpone a playoff match.

''In this news message you state that there are missing results and the supervisors are unaware of what happened. Its the second line that has me frowned.

You seem to be talking about 17.4

During the match week, any scheduled match, be it scheduled by the clans themselves or by the supervisor, can only be rescheduled if both clans agree on a new date/time in the same match week and if both inform the supervisor of this by email at least 1 day before the original date of the match. Rescheduling on the day of the match will require a wildcard being used.

I don't think this rule aplies ;o (it has something to do with informing before hand and CB not knowing the match was postponed). Ofcourse maybe those clans did and you didn't sort your e-mail out for over a week.

The sum
Wildcards can't be used.
The supervisors knew nothing until monday.
Monday 11 june is not 1 day before the match.
clanbase crew uses their rules as they see fit.

gg
u prefer an istant double forfeit loss coz they didn't put anyscore in time without even asking? you should use some common sense; some rules are there to prevent lamers some others are there to guide people on the proper way.


You should use common sense that Jean = Jean in the FG match.

OH WAIT.
#16 Refl ([Eß] )  12 Jun 2012 10:02
Choose:

- FG goes to final div2
- JnoobZ vs St will be played

OR

- Sp rulefucks FG
- We rulefuck JnoobZ and St

Rules are rules. You ain't gonna bend the rules in your favor only SeeK
#15 Refl ([Eß] )  12 Jun 2012 09:51
SeeK wrote:
killalot0 wrote:
I skimmed the rules and found these

9. Rule 6

Wildcards can not be used for playoff matches. A playoff match can only be postponed by decision of the supervisor. Problems that affect only 1 player will never be sufficient reason to postpone a playoff match.

''In this news message you state that there are missing results and the supervisors are unaware of what happened. Its the second line that has me frowned.

You seem to be talking about 17.4

During the match week, any scheduled match, be it scheduled by the clans themselves or by the supervisor, can only be rescheduled if both clans agree on a new date/time in the same match week and if both inform the supervisor of this by email at least 1 day before the original date of the match. Rescheduling on the day of the match will require a wildcard being used.

I don't think this rule aplies ;o (it has something to do with informing before hand and CB not knowing the match was postponed). Ofcourse maybe those clans did and you didn't sort your e-mail out for over a week.

The sum
Wildcards can't be used.
The supervisors knew nothing until monday.
Monday 11 june is not 1 day before the match.
clanbase crew uses their rules as they see fit.

gg
u prefer an istant double forfeit loss coz they didn't put anyscore in time without even asking? you should use some common sense; some rules are there to prevent lamers some others are there to guide people on the proper way.


Haha nice try SeeK.
If St. vs JnoobZ is not a double forfeit, then CB rules are not applied.
Why are you rulefucking over a GUID, but then when rules clearly state that 2 clans failed, you say some rules are more important than others?
Why is this guy an admin? :')

Tbh, I rather play St or JnoobZ, but seeing how admins bend the rules to their favor (SeeK the CB admin playing with Sp) I'd like to see them get the rage of these clans by following the rules and giving them a double forfeit.

EB vs xTc final? GL HF
#14 Spitfire! (Spitfire!)  12 Jun 2012 08:44
SeeK wrote:

u prefer an istant double forfeit loss coz they didn't put anyscore in time without even asking? you should use some common sense; some rules are there to prevent lamers some others are there to guide people on the proper way.


Read my first post, I don't want them to be excluded. Where is the fun in that!?
Rules are there to make the cup as enjoyable as possible for everyone. It's is not enjoyable for anyone if we exclude these teams. Eß wants to play the strongest team in the finals, so some leniency in respect to the rules is great. Also it is not enjoyable for the the div. 2 finals team that has to play your clan because some trivial rule was not honoured. Be a good sport and don't use rules to your advantage just because you couldn't win the conventional way. If division 2 was about fun and trying see what team is best in that division the cup failed on both parts.
#13 SeeK (Sp )  12 Jun 2012 08:17
killalot0 wrote:
I skimmed the rules and found these

9. Rule 6

Wildcards can not be used for playoff matches. A playoff match can only be postponed by decision of the supervisor. Problems that affect only 1 player will never be sufficient reason to postpone a playoff match.

''In this news message you state that there are missing results and the supervisors are unaware of what happened. Its the second line that has me frowned.

You seem to be talking about 17.4

During the match week, any scheduled match, be it scheduled by the clans themselves or by the supervisor, can only be rescheduled if both clans agree on a new date/time in the same match week and if both inform the supervisor of this by email at least 1 day before the original date of the match. Rescheduling on the day of the match will require a wildcard being used.

I don't think this rule aplies ;o (it has something to do with informing before hand and CB not knowing the match was postponed). Ofcourse maybe those clans did and you didn't sort your e-mail out for over a week.

The sum
Wildcards can't be used.
The supervisors knew nothing until monday.
Monday 11 june is not 1 day before the match.
clanbase crew uses their rules as they see fit.

gg

u prefer an istant double forfeit loss coz they didn't put anyscore in time without even asking? you should use some common sense; some rules are there to prevent lamers some others are there to guide people on the proper way.
#12 killalot0 (killalot0)  12 Jun 2012 07:51
I skimmed the rules and found these

9. Rule 6

Wildcards can not be used for playoff matches. A playoff match can only be postponed by decision of the supervisor. Problems that affect only 1 player will never be sufficient reason to postpone a playoff match.

''In this news message you state that there are missing results and the supervisors are unaware of what happened. Its the second line that has me frowned.

You seem to be talking about 17.4

During the match week, any scheduled match, be it scheduled by the clans themselves or by the supervisor, can only be rescheduled if both clans agree on a new date/time in the same match week and if both inform the supervisor of this by email at least 1 day before the original date of the match. Rescheduling on the day of the match will require a wildcard being used.

I don't think this rule aplies ;o (it has something to do with informing before hand and CB not knowing the match was postponed). Ofcourse maybe those clans did and you didn't sort your e-mail out for over a week.

The sum
Wildcards can't be used.
The supervisors knew nothing until monday.
Monday 11 june is not 1 day before the match.
clanbase crew uses their rules as they see fit.

gg
#11 PiyoniR ClanBase Crew member (ClanBase Crew)  11 Jun 2012 23:09
Forced match can be rescheduled only if both teams agree, so I don't see any problem that you can't/couldn't rescheduled your matches.
#10 killalot0 (killalot0)  11 Jun 2012 22:53
Hey, Clanbase what about the rules now? Two clans blatantly refused to play on a forced date. How is that fair to other clans that did not have their best lineup when they honoured their dates? Forgetting that we actually had to wildcard, because you supervisors wrongly excluded one of our players from the cup. Rules you held so dear on that FG vs sp match, remember? Are we going to follow the rules strickly or are we going to use some common sense and not cling on to some rules like someone with an obsessive -compulsive personality disorder. *If by any chance you misunderstood me, "Yes I'm perfectly fine with them resceduling. I want to play the best clan in the finals not some clan that got there by no shows or "a lucky break".
#9 «°C»Degree (oC )  11 Jun 2012 22:22
gor9e, they're pretty hardcore about the rules, it's apparently the best way to get successful cups.

...
#8 chaos (FG>)  11 Jun 2012 17:12
and i wrote the matchreports for FG but no u contacted offline contacts
#7 gor9e (gor9e)  11 Jun 2012 16:08
There is not chance FG can do something??? To be honest the clanleader an jean are not online so much... LuZ or me would be a better contact... we organized trains and the wars... and now we got dropped beacuse of just a missing GUID...
#6 NudeGirl ClanBase Crew member (ClanBase Crew)  11 Jun 2012 14:52
Refl wrote:
[ST2]DavVador wrote:
Velouria wrote:
as far as I know, St vs Jnoob will be played tomorrow at 9pm cet
Ok nice

So div3 final will be delayed 1 week then?

Only one or 2 days.
#5 Refl ([Eß] )  11 Jun 2012 14:44
[ST2]DavVador wrote:
Velouria wrote:
as far as I know, St vs Jnoob will be played tomorrow at 9pm cet
Ok nice


So div3 final will be delayed 1 week then?
#4 [ST2]DavVador ([ST2] )  11 Jun 2012 14:09
Velouria wrote:
as far as I know, St vs Jnoob will be played tomorrow at 9pm cet

Ok nice
#3 Velouria ([St.])  11 Jun 2012 14:01
as far as I know, St vs Jnoob will be played tomorrow at 9pm cet
#2 SeeK (Sp )  11 Jun 2012 13:53
pluribanned cheaters still playing? holy crap, this game is dead
#1 Refl ([Eß] )  11 Jun 2012 12:54
Alöha Divison 1 next season?
Holy shit, this game is dead.

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