guidetti wrote:
Nightmare^ wrote:
Inco^ wrote:
You don't make sense and most of the 'facts' u bring are false. v47 bye.

You're arrogant. (hope make sense) Zombi is more trustfull to watch a demo then you. (hope it make sense) EC + stuff = top = $$&recognition? = nothing (hope make sense) Oh sry mate, yes, u said "I saw his demo, he might have cheated..." well, its even worst. (if this doesnt make sense, then its ur IQ that's low, not other ppl ones)
I can make a draw, would be funny ur face...

?

Nightmare^ wrote:
Inco^ wrote:
You don't make sense and most of the 'facts' u bring are false. v47 bye.

You're arrogant. (hope make sense) Zombi is more trustfull to watch a demo then you. (hope it make sense) EC + stuff = top = $$&recognition? = nothing (hope make sense) Oh sry mate, yes, u said "I saw his demo, he might have cheated..." well, its even worst. (if this doesnt make sense, then its ur IQ that's low, not other ppl ones)
I can make a draw, would be funny ur face...

Inco^ wrote:
You don't make sense and most of the 'facts' u bring are false. v47 bye.

Inco^ wrote:
Nightmare^ wrote:
Inco^ wrote:
So common comment here. I'm sorry, it's quite evident you polish players are not even near decent, so I don't need to be arrogant, as I won ECs and stuff as facts to claim I'm among the top, to tell I'm far better than every player of your joke of a clan.

:O
Seriously?
I don't know if u already notice, but since all coments behind until now, u were the only one who become arrogant... You're becoming so ridiculous that u are hiting ur own feet when u comment about judgment authority in democrew. Zombi is so more able to judge anything than you. I remember when nefret open a topic in mohaa forum about p@tu cheating, u were also saying he was cheating at demo, and in fact he wasn't. And I'm not mentioning half of the cases. The fact of u won ECs and stuff makes you along the top? What is top? A bunch of retards? What you won = nothing. congrats

You don't make sense and most of the 'facts' u bring are false. v47 bye.

Nightmare^ wrote:
Inco^ wrote:
So common comment here. I'm sorry, it's quite evident you polish players are not even near decent, so I don't need to be arrogant, as I won ECs and stuff as facts to claim I'm among the top, to tell I'm far better than every player of your joke of a clan.

:O
Seriously?
I don't know if u already notice, but since all coments behind until now, u were the only one who become arrogant... You're becoming so ridiculous that u are hiting ur own feet when u comment about judgment authority in democrew. Zombi is so more able to judge anything than you. I remember when nefret open a topic in mohaa forum about p@tu cheating, u were also saying he was cheating at demo, and in fact he wasn't. And I'm not mentioning half of the cases. The fact of u won ECs and stuff makes you along the top? What is top? A bunch of retards? What you won = nothing. congrats

Inco^ wrote:
So common comment here. I'm sorry, it's quite evident you polish players are not even near decent, so I don't need to be arrogant, as I won ECs and stuff as facts to claim I'm among the top, to tell I'm far better than every player of your joke of a clan.

.Xzibit wrote:
Inco^ wrote:
zombi wrote:
Inco^ wrote:
zombi you are clearly a noob and you have no legitimity to tell wether someone cheats or not.
I'm in a far better position to make the democrew job than you are, since you know nothing about the high level.
Every top realism player that investigated frogi's demo clearly saw he cheated. You not being able to see it is enough for telling you are not competent for this job.
I won't hide my point of view about trance and other polish, and me telling it doesn't make it a biased point of view. If I say he always cheated, it's because of the many times he, imo, cheated.



ok m8. pls stop. just stop. don't humiliate yourself. u already said too much.

humiliated ? How would I feel humiliated among the low IQs you all are?

you polish noobs have no skill, hf lying to yourself and to the so small community left, community among which the only decent players left clearly see through your lie

btw zombi has more awarded clans than you ! u suck

Inco^ wrote:
zombi wrote:
Inco^ wrote:
zombi you are clearly a noob and you have no legitimity to tell wether someone cheats or not.
I'm in a far better position to make the democrew job than you are, since you know nothing about the high level.
Every top realism player that investigated frogi's demo clearly saw he cheated. You not being able to see it is enough for telling you are not competent for this job.
I won't hide my point of view about trance and other polish, and me telling it doesn't make it a biased point of view. If I say he always cheated, it's because of the many times he, imo, cheated.



ok m8. pls stop. just stop. don't humiliate yourself. u already said too much.

humiliated ? How would I feel humiliated among the low IQs you all are?

you polish noobs have no skill, hf lying to yourself and to the so small community left, community among which the only decent players left clearly see through your lie

zombi wrote:
Inco^ wrote:
zombi you are clearly a noob and you have no legitimity to tell wether someone cheats or not.
I'm in a far better position to make the democrew job than you are, since you know nothing about the high level.
Every top realism player that investigated frogi's demo clearly saw he cheated. You not being able to see it is enough for telling you are not competent for this job.
I won't hide my point of view about trance and other polish, and me telling it doesn't make it a biased point of view. If I say he always cheated, it's because of the many times he, imo, cheated.



ok m8. pls stop. just stop. don't humiliate yourself. u already said too much.

Inco^ wrote:
zombi you are clearly a noob and you have no legitimity to tell wether someone cheats or not.
I'm in a far better position to make the democrew job than you are, since you know nothing about the high level.
Every top realism player that investigated frogi's demo clearly saw he cheated. You not being able to see it is enough for telling you are not competent for this job.
I won't hide my point of view about trance and other polish, and me telling it doesn't make it a biased point of view. If I say he always cheated, it's because of the many times he, imo, cheated.

Inco^ wrote:
tG wrote:
Inco^ wrote:
zombi wrote:
As always when:

Inco^ wrote:


everyone:



p.s. ...give me a break... please. You are out. You lost easy 18:10 against trance's team who owned you. It's a class difference. I don't have to be a mohaa God to see you were weaker. But ofc.Yes. You're sure the best. Are you happy? Bye

I'm not weaker to such players as trance or xzibit etc and trance never owned me, if he did well it's because he, as always, cheated. You can't call those polish players class unless you are a newbie to this game.. oh wait...

You are so full of yourself its not even funny, visit a psychiatrist

So common comment here. I'm sorry, it's quite evident you polish players are not even near decent, so I don't need to be arrogant, as I won ECs and stuff as facts to claim I'm among the top, to tell I'm far better than every player of your joke of a clan.

tG wrote:
Inco^ wrote:
zombi wrote:
As always when:

Inco^ wrote:


everyone:



p.s. ...give me a break... please. You are out. You lost easy 18:10 against trance's team who owned you. It's a class difference. I don't have to be a mohaa God to see you were weaker. But ofc.Yes. You're sure the best. Are you happy? Bye

I'm not weaker to such players as trance or xzibit etc and trance never owned me, if he did well it's because he, as always, cheated. You can't call those polish players class unless you are a newbie to this game.. oh wait...

You are so full of yourself its not even funny, visit a psychiatrist

zombi wrote:
Inco^ wrote:
trance never owned me, if he did well it's because he, as always, cheated

and this is why i sometimes don't agree to allow you to vote. You are simply biased to some people.

How an admin, who claims that he's objective, can say that a player always cheated? Everyone will know how You will vote before you will watch the demo. I wouldn't want to be judged by such admin...

oh. i forgot:

Inco^ wrote:
You can't call those polish players class unless you are a newbie to this game.. oh wait...

Inco^ wrote:
trance never owned me, if he did well it's because he, as always, cheated

Inco^ wrote:
You can't call those polish players class unless you are a newbie to this game.. oh wait...

Inco^ wrote:
zombi wrote:
As always when:

Inco^ wrote:


everyone:



p.s. ...give me a break... please. You are out. You lost easy 18:10 against trance's team who owned you. It's a class difference. I don't have to be a mohaa God to see you were weaker. But ofc.Yes. You're sure the best. Are you happy? Bye

I'm not weaker to such players as trance or xzibit etc and trance never owned me, if he did well it's because he, as always, cheated. You can't call those polish players class unless you are a newbie to this game.. oh wait...

Inco^ wrote:
zombi wrote:
As always when:

Inco^ wrote:


everyone:



p.s. ...give me a break... please. You are out. You lost easy 18:10 against trance's team who owned you. It's a class difference. I don't have to be a mohaa God to see you were weaker. But ofc.Yes. You're sure the best. Are you happy? Bye

I'm not weaker to such players as trance or xzibit etc and trance never owned me, if he did well it's because he, as always, cheated. You can't call those polish players class unless you are a newbie to this game.. oh wait...

zombi wrote:
As always when:

Inco^ wrote:


everyone:



p.s. ...give me a break... please. You are out. You lost easy 18:10 against trance's team who owned you. It's a class difference. I don't have to be a mohaa God to see you were weaker. But ofc.Yes. You're sure the best. Are you happy? Bye

Inco^ wrote:

BuZz wrote:
zombi wrote:
BuZz wrote:
zombi, could you please just ONE time shut your fucking mouth ?


hmmm...nah I like when You cry because u couldn't ban someone who's better than You. It's so french...

Someone who is clearly cheating is not better than me. You said the same with little & frogi, and we saw what happenned. Try again

.MCPWNAGE wrote:
zombi wrote:

Stop crying and try harder.

It's so polish.

zombi wrote:

Stop crying and try harder.

zombi wrote:
Austin Powers wrote:
zombi wrote:
sjeems- wrote:
zombi wrote:
guidetti wrote:
zombi wrote:
I see that everyone is whining, and noone knows how it works. Let me explain:

To make things clear:

1st demo case, when trance was banned, was made by me. I did everything to make this voting objective, and to allow to vote only people who won't get any profit from banning or unbanning this player. Imo, trance was banned by the people who judged him objectively and who thought( at that time ) that he wasn't clean.

2nd demo case ( appeal ), was also made by me. Trance appealed from democrew's decision, and he made his explanations. This time vote could be made only by admins who were also objective, but who didn't vote in the 1st case.
During this voting, one of the admins showed evidences, that cleared trance ( or at least gave him a benefit of a doubt ).
With players explanations, democrew watchers explanations and evidence's from one of admins ( prooving that trance could telling the truth ), and finally because of the majority of votes "clean", he was unbanned.

Because of everything above, Hybris couldn't make other decision.

*,..,*

p.s. In both cases i couldn't vote.

so which admitted proved the clear evidence he wasnt cheating?

there was no clear evidence that he wasn't cheating. There was an evidence that showed us, he didn't need to cheat in situations from timestamps. That made many doubts so in that case admins had to unban him. Benefit of a doubt.

http://clanbase.ggl.com/humaninfo.php?hid=2734646&suspend=1

This really must've given him the benefit of the doubt -_-'

?? what's the point of showing his C&A profile? He never got banned for cheating. Only for being a rude spammer/whiner/abuser and because of rwb. So why u'r "flaming"? another trolling..??

p.s. as i remember You also james got benefit of a doubt last month... and you have a trace of cheat in your hid hypocrite...

benefit of the doubt ? Lot's of people said that it was clean as hell. Only noname said it was bs , enough has been said about trance. And his rwb thing shows he doesn't mind about the rules. And as you said trace of cheats , i didn't cheat at all. I told it wasn't a cheat and Probe9 , a well known opencup lamer , searched for anything. I didn't cheat , those polaks just suck and please mr trace of cheats .... , look @ your own

U're the one who's whining because admins decided trance was clean and u've started C&A thing, so don't try to compare yourself with me, because it's pathetic. If we, as a democrew would work like "Lot's of people said[...]", You would be banned 2 weeks ago. So stop complaining, because You're the last one who should abuse or complain about this system.

*,..,*

BuZz wrote:
Someone who is clearly cheating is not better than me. You said the same with little & frogi, and we saw what happenned. Try again

zombi wrote:
BuZz wrote:
zombi, could you please just ONE time shut your fucking mouth ?


hmmm...nah I like when You cry because u couldn't ban someone who's better than You. It's so french...

zombi wrote:
It's so french...

zombi wrote:
BuZz wrote:
zombi, could you please just ONE time shut your fucking mouth ?


hmmm...nah I like when You cry because u couldn't ban someone who's better than You. It's so french...

BuZz wrote:
zombi, could you please just ONE time shut your fucking mouth ?

BuZz wrote:
zombi, could you please just ONE time shut your fucking mouth ? I cba anymore listening to you defending your mates, who clearly cheat! AND YOU KNOW IT! You licked little/frogi 's asses for several months, answering with 50 lines everytime to explain everything. Stop acting as if you were their referee. Blind people, cba

Austin Powers wrote:
zombi wrote:
sjeems- wrote:
zombi wrote:
guidetti wrote:
zombi wrote:
I see that everyone is whining, and noone knows how it works. Let me explain:

To make things clear:

1st demo case, when trance was banned, was made by me. I did everything to make this voting objective, and to allow to vote only people who won't get any profit from banning or unbanning this player. Imo, trance was banned by the people who judged him objectively and who thought( at that time ) that he wasn't clean.

2nd demo case ( appeal ), was also made by me. Trance appealed from democrew's decision, and he made his explanations. This time vote could be made only by admins who were also objective, but who didn't vote in the 1st case.
During this voting, one of the admins showed evidences, that cleared trance ( or at least gave him a benefit of a doubt ).
With players explanations, democrew watchers explanations and evidence's from one of admins ( prooving that trance could telling the truth ), and finally because of the majority of votes "clean", he was unbanned.

Because of everything above, Hybris couldn't make other decision.

*,..,*

p.s. In both cases i couldn't vote.

so which admitted proved the clear evidence he wasnt cheating?

there was no clear evidence that he wasn't cheating. There was an evidence that showed us, he didn't need to cheat in situations from timestamps. That made many doubts so in that case admins had to unban him. Benefit of a doubt.

http://clanbase.ggl.com/humaninfo.php?hid=2734646&suspend=1

This really must've given him the benefit of the doubt -_-'

?? what's the point of showing his C&A profile? He never got banned for cheating. Only for being a rude spammer/whiner/abuser and because of rwb. So why u'r "flaming"? another trolling..??

p.s. as i remember You also james got benefit of a doubt last month... and you have a trace of cheat in your hid hypocrite...

benefit of the doubt ? Lot's of people said that it was clean as hell. Only noname said it was bs , enough has been said about trance. And his rwb thing shows he doesn't mind about the rules. And as you said trace of cheats , i didn't cheat at all. I told it wasn't a cheat and Probe9 , a well known opencup lamer , searched for anything. I didn't cheat , those polaks just suck and please mr trace of cheats .... , look @ your own

"Lot's of people said[...]"

zombi wrote:
sjeems- wrote:
zombi wrote:
guidetti wrote:
zombi wrote:
I see that everyone is whining, and noone knows how it works. Let me explain:

To make things clear:

1st demo case, when trance was banned, was made by me. I did everything to make this voting objective, and to allow to vote only people who won't get any profit from banning or unbanning this player. Imo, trance was banned by the people who judged him objectively and who thought( at that time ) that he wasn't clean.

2nd demo case ( appeal ), was also made by me. Trance appealed from democrew's decision, and he made his explanations. This time vote could be made only by admins who were also objective, but who didn't vote in the 1st case.
During this voting, one of the admins showed evidences, that cleared trance ( or at least gave him a benefit of a doubt ).
With players explanations, democrew watchers explanations and evidence's from one of admins ( prooving that trance could telling the truth ), and finally because of the majority of votes "clean", he was unbanned.

Because of everything above, Hybris couldn't make other decision.

*,..,*

p.s. In both cases i couldn't vote.

so which admitted proved the clear evidence he wasnt cheating?

there was no clear evidence that he wasn't cheating. There was an evidence that showed us, he didn't need to cheat in situations from timestamps. That made many doubts so in that case admins had to unban him. Benefit of a doubt.

http://clanbase.ggl.com/humaninfo.php?hid=2734646&suspend=1

This really must've given him the benefit of the doubt -_-'

?? what's the point of showing his C&A profile? He never got banned for cheating. Only for being a rude spammer/whiner/abuser and because of rwb. So why u'r "flaming"? another trolling..??

p.s. as i remember You also james got benefit of a doubt last month... and you have a trace of cheat in your hid hypocrite...

sjeems- wrote:
zombi wrote:
guidetti wrote:
zombi wrote:
I see that everyone is whining, and noone knows how it works. Let me explain:

To make things clear:

1st demo case, when trance was banned, was made by me. I did everything to make this voting objective, and to allow to vote only people who won't get any profit from banning or unbanning this player. Imo, trance was banned by the people who judged him objectively and who thought( at that time ) that he wasn't clean.

2nd demo case ( appeal ), was also made by me. Trance appealed from democrew's decision, and he made his explanations. This time vote could be made only by admins who were also objective, but who didn't vote in the 1st case.
During this voting, one of the admins showed evidences, that cleared trance ( or at least gave him a benefit of a doubt ).
With players explanations, democrew watchers explanations and evidence's from one of admins ( prooving that trance could telling the truth ), and finally because of the majority of votes "clean", he was unbanned.

Because of everything above, Hybris couldn't make other decision.

*,..,*

p.s. In both cases i couldn't vote.

so which admitted proved the clear evidence he wasnt cheating?

there was no clear evidence that he wasn't cheating. There was an evidence that showed us, he didn't need to cheat in situations from timestamps. That made many doubts so in that case admins had to unban him. Benefit of a doubt.

http://clanbase.ggl.com/humaninfo.php?hid=2734646&suspend=1

This really must've given him the benefit of the doubt -_-'

zombi wrote:
guidetti wrote:
zombi wrote:
I see that everyone is whining, and noone knows how it works. Let me explain:

To make things clear:

1st demo case, when trance was banned, was made by me. I did everything to make this voting objective, and to allow to vote only people who won't get any profit from banning or unbanning this player. Imo, trance was banned by the people who judged him objectively and who thought( at that time ) that he wasn't clean.

2nd demo case ( appeal ), was also made by me. Trance appealed from democrew's decision, and he made his explanations. This time vote could be made only by admins who were also objective, but who didn't vote in the 1st case.
During this voting, one of the admins showed evidences, that cleared trance ( or at least gave him a benefit of a doubt ).
With players explanations, democrew watchers explanations and evidence's from one of admins ( prooving that trance could telling the truth ), and finally because of the majority of votes "clean", he was unbanned.

Because of everything above, Hybris couldn't make other decision.

*,..,*

p.s. In both cases i couldn't vote.

so which admitted proved the clear evidence he wasnt cheating?

there was no clear evidence that he wasn't cheating. There was an evidence that showed us, he didn't need to cheat in situations from timestamps. That made many doubts so in that case admins had to unban him. Benefit of a doubt.

guidetti wrote:
zombi wrote:
I see that everyone is whining, and noone knows how it works. Let me explain:

To make things clear:

1st demo case, when trance was banned, was made by me. I did everything to make this voting objective, and to allow to vote only people who won't get any profit from banning or unbanning this player. Imo, trance was banned by the people who judged him objectively and who thought( at that time ) that he wasn't clean.

2nd demo case ( appeal ), was also made by me. Trance appealed from democrew's decision, and he made his explanations. This time vote could be made only by admins who were also objective, but who didn't vote in the 1st case.
During this voting, one of the admins showed evidences, that cleared trance ( or at least gave him a benefit of a doubt ).
With players explanations, democrew watchers explanations and evidence's from one of admins ( prooving that trance could telling the truth ), and finally because of the majority of votes "clean", he was unbanned.

Because of everything above, Hybris couldn't make other decision.

*,..,*

p.s. In both cases i couldn't vote.

so which admitted proved the clear evidence he wasnt cheating?

zombi wrote:
I see that everyone is whining, and noone knows how it works. Let me explain:

To make things clear:

1st demo case, when trance was banned, was made by me. I did everything to make this voting objective, and to allow to vote only people who won't get any profit from banning or unbanning this player. Imo, trance was banned by the people who judged him objectively and who thought( at that time ) that he wasn't clean.

2nd demo case ( appeal ), was also made by me. Trance appealed from democrew's decision, and he made his explanations. This time vote could be made only by admins who were also objective, but who didn't vote in the 1st case.
During this voting, one of the admins showed evidences, that cleared trance ( or at least gave him a benefit of a doubt ).
With players explanations, democrew watchers explanations and evidence's from one of admins ( prooving that trance could telling the truth ), and finally because of the majority of votes "clean", he was unbanned.

Because of everything above, Hybris couldn't make other decision.

*,..,*

p.s. In both cases i couldn't vote.

.Xzibit wrote:
hater detected

Austin Powers wrote:
.Xzibit wrote:
Probably most of you didnt even watch trance's demo and acusing him of cheating . There was nothing strange in his demo lol

Do you guys really think we need to cheat to beat Maladick ?-_-

haters get a life please

People are just laughing with the democrew imo. They found him guilty of cheating and now they suddenly think he's clean ? What a joke. Normally you can see if a player cheats , you just can see it , ok some players are good at hiding it but somethings are just obvious. It's just weird how he got unbanned since they really were sure , otherwise they wouldn't bann , that he was cheating.

Ok , he's got his reputation against him since lot's of polaks cheated last time. But this is just a frogi case imo , community knew he was cheating and he got banned . It was hilarious to see that Little had used the same cheat aswell but tRance didn't even try to blend in. Before he came back on mohaa , he was like a mid+ with GV , now he's just all over the place rocking everybody with incredible shots. If he'd done this stuff before , people wouldn't accuse him. He knows stuff , prefires nades precisely and stuff.

When you guys played without cheats , some long time ago , you won lots of matches but lost some aswell. But nowadays you guys just don't lose anymore lol. You guys can recover from a 10-4 loss on v2 by rocking the hell on hunt/bridge. Just by some weird actions.

Everybody is just laughing with you guys since you guys are known for cheating and tRance being unbanned is just the cherry on the pie as graphy would say !

.Xzibit wrote:
Probably most of you didnt even watch trance's demo and acusing him of cheating . There was nothing strange in his demo lol

Do you guys really think we need to cheat to beat Maladick ?-_-

haters get a life please

BuZz wrote:
His demo is fucking obvious, he has no bushes at all on Hunt! ( wallack or picmip, but both of them > ban )

And you obviously need to cheat to get decent results

.MCPWNAGE wrote:
.Xzibit wrote:
Probably most of you didnt even watch trance's demo and acusing him of cheating . There was nothing strange in his demo lol

Do you guys really think we need to cheat to beat Maladick ?-_-

haters get a life please

lol.

.Xzibit wrote:
Probably most of you didnt even watch trance's demo and acusing him of cheating . There was nothing strange in his demo lol

Do you guys really think we need to cheat to beat Maladick ?-_-

haters get a life please

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brouwR- wrote:
Zombi watched it during the appeal?! He seems to be cheatdefender #1

Hybris wrote:
HIPPODROM wrote:
what???

he was banned because of his demos. and now his demos are clean? HOW?

Because different people watch them during the original investigation and during the appeal.

HIPPODROM wrote:
what???

he was banned because of his demos. and now his demos are clean? HOW?

graphY wrote:
welcome back trance


demo up

RACHID wrote:
Hatchet wrote:
now watch |?| crying lol hi buzz <3

get a country

Hatchet wrote:
now watch |?| crying lol hi buzz <3