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| #74 AlBundy (AlBundy) 8 Jun 2008 22:42 | Reply |
HC_Willis wrote: AlBundy wrote: Stuff How about replying with your real nick next time? erm...? I´m maybe one the the best fakers here :P, but this is my regular name since more than a year and the only one I ever used of GB  | |
| #73 Ast3rix (»rd°) 8 Jun 2008 18:19 | Reply |
maddy wrote: Can any1 post or send screenshots from servertesting ??? From what Im told servers was tested with some players that then didnt play the war. If this is the case: forcing server based on ping for players that didnt play is wrong according to the rules. All players should test server or be considered having 0 ping. Btw, apota changed also players. I cant remember, that "3T" has tested the server... I has been said all, what needed to be said. It was a blemish of APOTA... Over and out. | |
| #72 HunteR aka H`S (»rd°) 8 Jun 2008 12:36 | Reply |
maddy wrote: Can any1 post or send screenshots from servertesting ??? From what Im told servers was tested with some players that then didnt play the war. If this is the case: forcing server based on ping for players that didnt play is wrong according to the rules. All players should test server or be considered having 0 ping. that was in so far true that outcast normally wouldnt have played the first map if the game would have been started 22 cet (he came 22.10-15 ..) we tested with all players who were there cause we have different lineups on the maps concerning tactics and late time... maps are just decided after the server test..so I coulnt set up the lineup of first map since it wasnt clear what map would be the first.. Taifun would have played on lava aerosoul on the 4th map which was switchback as well and just god knows who still would been there if there would have been a 5th map.. | |
| #71 maddy (APOTA ) 8 Jun 2008 12:12 | Reply |
Can any1 post or send screenshots from servertesting ??? From what Im told servers was tested with some players that then didnt play the war. If this is the case: forcing server based on ping for players that didnt play is wrong according to the rules. All players should test server or be considered having 0 ping. | |
#70 degnic (3F  ) 8 Jun 2008 11:54 | Reply |
10.2 If a clan only has lower average ping than it's opponent on it's home country server(s), they are deemed to have PING ADVANTAGE for their server(s) and all other servers should be used in preference. this rule has never been applied while I've been around, and yes we've tried more than a dozen times.. Even on times when it really should've been applied, it hasn't. Also the 10.4 rule is just bs, should be removed because there are always millions of interpretions of what is 'abnormally high' ping. | |
#69 HC_Willis ([N/A]  ) 8 Jun 2008 02:27 | Reply |
AlBundy wrote: Stuff How about replying with your real nick next time? On topic: IMO Dev made the right decisiong about the servers, tho i cant agree on how the home country server rule has been interpreted. Anyways it doesnt remove the fact that it's quite shamefull to forfeit just after first map especially if the map went the way rD players say. | |
#68 Fidelas^/Zanza ([GD]  ) 7 Jun 2008 18:56 | Reply |
always funny to see people trying to outsmart an supervisor it wont happen they know the rules better then 90% here so just shut it anyway whats with the time?? 23.30 and it started at 21.00? so 2.30 hours of servertesting? and no1 thought lets get a neutral server? ahwell gl rD and i do hope u fix yr servers once, the lagspikes alone scares me from playing there  | |
| #67 $yñaRé ([«TEP»]) 7 Jun 2008 12:26 | Reply |
Nemi wrote: mania wrote: DeV~ / dmZ« wrote: mania wrote: you cant just follow 10.1, you have to follow all the rules for 10... I did follow all of them... it seems you don't read my comments... I promised not to write more.. sorry If a clan only has lower average ping than it's opponent on it's home country server(s) read the whole rule ffs... not just if a clan has lower average ping! after that it says THAN its opponent on its home country server! didnt you learn anything in school? why do you think the entire rule 10 is divided into smaller rules? we start with rule 10.1 and when we can't get a solution with just 10.1 we go to 10.2, and if that isn't enough we move on to 10.3 etc. There's no need to read the entire rule, because basically according to you 5 ger v 5 ger should also not be played on a ger server because there's a home server advantage. Dev made the correct decision, according to the very first rule 10.1 it was clear that only the rd server is fair, regardless of how used H^S & Soulja are to their ping. So the rest of the rules don't count just my 2 cents so dev doesn't have to reply anymore HI H^S, YOU WIN DIV2, oE WILL WIN DIV3 AND THEN WE CAN PARTY IN #iCTF.5on5 So true =) | |
| #66 °ròbòt^» (`øD») 7 Jun 2008 12:17 | Reply |
so funny and its still going on | |
| #65 mania (APOTA ) 7 Jun 2008 11:17 | Reply |
Nemi wrote: mania wrote: DeV~ / dmZ« wrote: mania wrote: you cant just follow 10.1, you have to follow all the rules for 10... I did follow all of them... it seems you don't read my comments... I promised not to write more.. sorry If a clan only has lower average ping than it's opponent on it's home country server(s) read the whole rule ffs... not just if a clan has lower average ping! after that it says THAN its opponent on its home country server! didnt you learn anything in school? why do you think the entire rule 10 is divided into smaller rules? we start with rule 10.1 and when we can't get a solution with just 10.1 we go to 10.2, and if that isn't enough we move on to 10.3 etc. There's no need to read the entire rule, because basically according to you 5 ger v 5 ger should also not be played on a ger server because there's a home server advantage. Dev made the correct decision, according to the very first rule 10.1 it was clear that only the rd server is fair, regardless of how used H^S & Soulja are to their ping. So the rest of the rules don't count just my 2 cents so dev doesn't have to reply anymore HI H^S, YOU WIN DIV2, oE WILL WIN DIV3 AND THEN WE CAN PARTY IN #iCTF.5on5 where does it say that if 10.1 is ok you dont have to follow 10.2? becouse in older cups we had to follow all the rules not just 10.1! | |
| #64 [GD]Sjeng ([GD] ) 7 Jun 2008 08:21 | Reply |
The solution for this is was rly easy. If APOTA was on time on quakenet & the servertesting was on time. They could have gotten a 3rd server other german server/uk/nl/italian cba rly which country. Would be better to play on rd server. Played on the rd server many times as dutchy and i also got fed up with the lagspikes every time so... But can't blame rd for this, they just followed the rules because the match started too late. | |
| #63 HunteR aka H`S (»rd°) 7 Jun 2008 04:40 | Reply |
Nemi wrote: HI H^S, YOU WIN DIV2, oE WILL WIN DIV3 AND THEN WE CAN PARTY IN #iCTF.5on5 if you + those other people call me H`S how i am writed (so noone calls me GNA|h^s anymore..^^) then its ok - but first both of us has to win our divisions | |
| #62 Nemi (`oE~) 7 Jun 2008 04:35 | Reply |
mania wrote: DeV~ / dmZ« wrote: mania wrote: you cant just follow 10.1, you have to follow all the rules for 10... I did follow all of them... it seems you don't read my comments... I promised not to write more.. sorry If a clan only has lower average ping than it's opponent on it's home country server(s) read the whole rule ffs... not just if a clan has lower average ping! after that it says THAN its opponent on its home country server! didnt you learn anything in school? why do you think the entire rule 10 is divided into smaller rules? we start with rule 10.1 and when we can't get a solution with just 10.1 we go to 10.2, and if that isn't enough we move on to 10.3 etc. There's no need to read the entire rule, because basically according to you 5 ger v 5 ger should also not be played on a ger server because there's a home server advantage. Dev made the correct decision, according to the very first rule 10.1 it was clear that only the rd server is fair, regardless of how used H^S & Soulja are to their ping. So the rest of the rules don't count just my 2 cents so dev doesn't have to reply anymore HI H^S, YOU WIN DIV2, oE WILL WIN DIV3 AND THEN WE CAN PARTY IN #iCTF.5on5 | |
| #61 øûtçå$t (»rd°) 7 Jun 2008 00:32 | Reply |
i dont want to take part in a stupid rule discussion... i just need to say 1 thing. rd was playing better anyway that night... wouldnt have changed anything if we have played on another server... we win - you lose. its as easy as this. just get over it and pls stop crying about ping and stuff.... THX just my 2 cents | |
| #60 mania (APOTA ) 7 Jun 2008 00:09 | Reply |
DeV~ / dmZ« wrote: mania wrote: you cant just follow 10.1, you have to follow all the rules for 10... I did follow all of them... it seems you don't read my comments... I promised not to write more.. sorry If a clan only has lower average ping than it's opponent on it's home country server(s) read the whole rule ffs... not just if a clan has lower average ping! after that it says THAN its opponent on its home country server! didnt you learn anything in school? | |
| #59 DeV~ / dmZ« (cLoSE™ ) 6 Jun 2008 23:43 | Reply |
mania wrote: you cant just follow 10.1, you have to follow all the rules for 10... I did follow all of them... it seems you don't read my comments... I promised not to write more.. sorry | |
| #58 AlBundy (AlBundy) 6 Jun 2008 22:30 | Reply |
mania wrote: we had 2 swedish players 1 finnish 1 nl 1 Slovak Republic.... they had 4 germans playing on a german server! And? H^S have more worse ping on german servers than u and many other ppl, same for me And yes, I lag also on rD-server, but Apota-server is horror for german servers Don´t blame everything on the server | |
| #57 [APOTA]Sel2l2an0 (APOTA ) 6 Jun 2008 21:33 | Reply |
Well what is done is done so no more arguing theres not point to discuss a thing that it isn't going to change. But imo the rules needs to be interpreted or explained correctly coz imo when theres more than 1 rule all of them must be applied or followed, not only the point that benefit one part of the players. | |
| #56 mania (APOTA ) 6 Jun 2008 21:20 | Reply |
DeV~ / dmZ« wrote: mania wrote: lower average ping and equal ping are two diffrent things dev... idd, that's why we stopped the discussion after 10.1 since there's no need to apply the other rules. you've just pointed at the reason why we ignored your server... the pings were equal on the rd server = no one had lower average ping = what are we talking about again? no one cares if it's a home server when the pings are even, even you can find it in the rule: "If a clan only has lower average ping" ... no one had lower average ping this was my last comment... explained it already 5 times at least, was enough from my side... we did everything by the rules, you can't complain... you cant just follow 10.1, you have to follow all the rules for 10... | |
| #55 HunteR aka H`S (»rd°) 6 Jun 2008 21:19 | Reply |
maddy wrote: @ Hunter- saying you guys would be willing to change to another german server - why not nl server or uk ?? Would have been more fair IMO. uhm the thing is while server testing ,while first map and after first map before they left nooone asked to test a neutral server - so why should we do if cb forced to play on our server..tbh we didnt came to the idea so far cause it was not needed for us anyway and my point was more that it was pretty not nice that 3 (or 2 then) of them leave without saying anything really..and after 20-25 mins they want us to test another server..( in that case they asked for a german server..) | |
| #54 maddy (APOTA ) 6 Jun 2008 20:50 | Reply |
Well its a sad thing that the players left after first map, sorry about not giving you a full semifinal RD. Consider the time (23.30 I belive) I can understand their decission though. Playing on a server that were bad for them didnt give an opportunity to a fair game so they obviously didnt want to spend half night when they couldnt play properly. @ Hunter- saying you guys would be willing to change to another german server - why not nl server or uk ?? Would have been more fair IMO. All this posts about rules .... I saw servertest ss and the RD guy that pinged 84 on our server I didnt see playing in first map. Maybe the 1 replacing him would have better ping on our server then a 2 server war could have been an option..... 19:5 Players who do not test a server are considered to have ping 0 on that server for the final server decision. 19:9 If a clan has more players available than are needed to fill a team (e.g 7 players for a 5v5 match) they must inform the referee and other team. Every player who intends to play the match should test all the servers, the referee should record pings for every player, the clans must wait for the referee's permission to swap round players during server testing. Though, I was not around last night and dont know exactly what happened. Sad with a semi-final like this though !!!!! Gl in final RD but most important - HF | |
| #53 aSic` (aeiou²) 6 Jun 2008 20:33 | Reply |
Everytime the same shit with the pings... look at hunter and soul, playing with ping 60 and they are still great players... so there IS the possibility to hit sth  anyway looks like poule B was stronger then poule A of this group (lol at predictions ) since there are only teams left out of this poulegl all o/ | |
| #52 DeV~ / dmZ« (cLoSE™ ) 6 Jun 2008 20:13 | Reply |
mania wrote: lower average ping and equal ping are two diffrent things dev... idd, that's why we stopped the discussion after 10.1 since there's no need to apply the other rules. you've just pointed at the reason why we ignored your server... the pings were equal on the rd server = no one had lower average ping = what are we talking about again? no one cares if it's a home server when the pings are even, even you can find it in the rule: "If a clan only has lower average ping" ... no one had lower average ping this was my last comment... explained it already 5 times at least, was enough from my side... we did everything by the rules, you can't complain... | |
#51 B1b3r (»dåMn«  ) 6 Jun 2008 19:41 | Reply |
SkinHeads Against Racial Prejudi, this makes me always loughthing like shit | |
| #50 Kaboom/Claves ([SHARP] ) 6 Jun 2008 19:26 | Reply |
mania wrote: lower average ping and equal ping are two diffrent things dev... if it wouldent have been their home country server we would have been forced to play on theirs, but now as it is you have to understand that 10.1 doesent count on their server becouse its their home country server and they had lower average ping! so automaticaly that server is the last resort... and stop saying 10.1 all the time and give me a valid reason why 10.2 isent a rule anymore? The 10.1 rule is there to define equal pings. You can't go around prohibiting a clan to play on their homeserver if the pings are considered equal, otherwise a 1 ms average difference would mean another server should be used. | |
| #49 Kaboom/Claves ([SHARP] ) 6 Jun 2008 19:23 | Reply |
DeV made the right decision here. According to the rules, the pings were considered even, so the rules mania quoted don't apply. I'msorry to say, but leaving the server is just immature, and shows a lack of sportsmanship from apota side. Besides if the server was really that bad, and apota server was aswell, you could've always looked for a server you could borrow. Anyway it's no use complaining about the decision nor rd's server, it's most likely yourselves to blaim for this. | |
| #48 mania (APOTA ) 6 Jun 2008 19:15 | Reply |
DeV~ / dmZ« wrote: so we're talking about an avg 5 ms disadvantage... now I should feel myself unfair? And no, it doesn't eliminate, read 10.1 again. Their pings were equal. ClanBase considers pings to be 'equal' when the average pings of one team are no more than 125% the amount of their opponent. The rule you're talking about is "If a clan only has lower average ping than it's opponent on it's home country server(s), they are deemed to......." - But they don't have lower average ping according to 10.1. lower average ping and equal ping are two diffrent things dev... if it wouldent have been their home country server we would have been forced to play on theirs, but now as it is you have to understand that 10.1 doesent count on their server becouse its their home country server and they had lower average ping! so automaticaly that server is the last resort... and stop saying 10.1 all the time and give me a valid reason why 10.2 isent a rule anymore? | |
| #47 B1b3r (»dåMn« ) 6 Jun 2008 19:01 | Reply |
ahNt` wrote: Well, i dont have to read this crap below but i know that the apota serv is on of the worst servers around atm :/ For a german its really unplayable with this lags, so stop blaming rd for this. shut up german pig | |
| #46 ahNt` (a\ ) 6 Jun 2008 18:54 | Reply |
Well, i dont have to read this crap below but i know that the apota serv is on of the worst servers around atm :/ For a german its really unplayable with this lags, so stop blaming rd for this. | |
| #45 «G!N»SàNT4.` («G!N» ) 6 Jun 2008 17:20 | Reply |
LoL , this makes me laughing ... Losing the cup in semi finals cuz ur ping wasn't that good ... thought it was a joke but yea .. rd to Final ^^ Gl guyz voted hardi | |
| #44 Ast3rix (»rd°) 6 Jun 2008 17:16 | Reply |
Dev has made the correct decission. All of you know this. A diffenrence of 5 ms is nothing. Dont look for the error at dev, look at the error at APOTA. If the match starts at 22 cet and APOTA playes a 3on3 instead of testing at 21:30 cet, they dont have to wonder, if the get a worser server. Normally they would lose the servertest, if they not ready to test servers at 21:30 cet! We decided to test their server anyway to make a nice semi-final. So if you looking for broken rules, look at the server-test rules. As i know, all players would be counted with ping 0, if they arenot ready to test the server 21:30 cet. Just my 2 cents. | |
| #43 DeV~ / dmZ« (cLoSE™ ) 6 Jun 2008 16:35 | Reply |
so we're talking about an avg 5 ms disadvantage... now I should feel myself unfair? And no, it doesn't eliminate, read 10.1 again. Their pings were equal. ClanBase considers pings to be 'equal' when the average pings of one team are no more than 125% the amount of their opponent. The rule you're talking about is "If a clan only has lower average ping than it's opponent on it's home country server(s), they are deemed to......." - But they don't have lower average ping according to 10.1. | |
| #42 Metoch / sN (BEL ) 6 Jun 2008 16:12 | Reply |
DeV~ / dmZ« wrote: nìtrø` wrote: btw, wasn't there a rule, that you can decline a server if all of the opponent clan are out of the servers country? That rule is still here: If a clan only has lower average ping than it's opponent on it's home country server(s), they are deemed to have PING ADVANTAGE for their server(s) and all other servers should be used in preference. but since the pings were 'equal' on the rd server, there's no way to refuse it, because "If a clan only has lower average ping" ... next time if a clan had 0.000000000001 ms disadvantage, that would refuse if we didn't apply the rule so A german server was out of the question dev. the rule you state eiminates it. you can't say " yeah it was more or less fair ". that doesn't really count. ( and don't give me the 0.000000001 difference.. we're not children... a difference of 4 ms is acceptable since pings are variable and change all the time. ). the only option here would have been to search a different server that wasn't from germany. .nl perhaps? | |
| #41 Soulja (»rd°) 6 Jun 2008 16:11 | Reply |
HunteR aka H`S wrote: mania wrote: Soulja wrote: yeah the first 10mins was gg and rly tense.. till we got a cap and they opened the def... so we could cap much more.... and because of the servers... rd public server is idd laggy and bad, but the clan server is fair! and sure i am used to play with ping 60-70... but thats no reason why we should play on a unfair server according the rules... and all UK server are bad for me, not because of ping... but because of all these emormous lag spikes. and rd would be ready to play on a neutral server, but when APOTA come too late, maybe 22.30cet(match time was 22cet) and we know we could play 5 maps, so we hadnt more time to find and test one more server. so i would say everything was handled with the rules, although a forfeit win suxx... especially in the semis -.- so IF/aeiou cu in final^^ we came late? we were on your server waiting for you to come and check the pings... well as far as i know the server test should start like 30 mins before..and when i asked you you said few of your players are playing 3on3.. 10 min before match time we all 8rd) checked pings on your server that server test can go faster..but it wasnt the case..short before 22 cet we all were able to server test which took as I expected almost 20 mins.. + map choose and discussion etc we started much later than match start time and I wanna say what i said in irc yesterday We would maybe have agreed with another german server , if apota would have asked us right after the first map instead of some of them leaving and letting us wait 20-25 mins where we didnt know what would happen.. also noone asked bout another german server before the first map - so all went legally idd. ...and anyway without this whole shit.... leaving after playing only ONE map (of minimum 3 and maximum 5 maps) is damn wrong!!! u had still the chance to win etc... thats kinda behaviour of kids... -.- so take a look of for example SvK, so u know how to play a semi, also when u lost the first map! | |
| #40 mania (APOTA ) 6 Jun 2008 16:04 | Reply |
DeV~ / dmZ« wrote: mania wrote: 10.2 If a clan only has lower average ping than it's opponent on it's home country server(s), they are deemed to have PING ADVANTAGE for their server(s) and all other servers should be used in preference. 10.6 A home country server is defined as being located in the same country as the majority of the clan's players who performed the server testing, regardless of their personal country preferences on ClanBase. Checks will be based on their ips connected to the server. and i tried to tell Dev about these rules but he just said only ping counts... but hey i dont care this was my last cup anyway! gl in the cup! Heh, read 10.1 pls... Till you don't have more than 125% of their pings during the servertesting, you can't say you have higher pings... What are we talking about? The only server where these conditions were met was the rd server, therefore I forced the match there... If you started having a lot worse pings during the match, then blame your ISP but not me please. (Now let's read the other comments) yeah but if your read 10.2 if we have higher average ping than them on their home country server they are deemed to have ping advantage and all other servers should be used in preference. so it doesent matter if its the most equal server becouse that server should only be used if there aint any other server around. so we should have played our server or any other non german server. if our pings would have been the same or we would have had ping advantage on their server we wouldent have anything to say. thats how i understand the rule. | |
| #39 [GD]BiLL ([GD] ) 6 Jun 2008 15:51 | Reply |
hmmm..... that sucks! | |
| #38 «G!N»Hoppel («G!N» ) 6 Jun 2008 15:37 | Reply |
Mhh too bad. But I think rD had managed this anyway... | |
| #37 [APOTA]Sel2l2an0 (APOTA ) 6 Jun 2008 15:37 | Reply |
bAzco wrote: [APOTA]Sel2l2an0 wrote: bAzco wrote: [APOTA]Sel2l2an0 wrote: LOL i feel only sadness, but bazco said it "rd server ftw" almost only german people does not have nice lag spikes that freezes u out for a couple of secs... Despite that sorry rd coz APOTA should play all the maps win or loose, imo. Lol dont get me wrong, your server sucks aswell ! Wich one coz we have another private server Then why whine about, not having a 3rd server? anyway you lose, I laugh hf with the rest of the cup.. eehrm.. wait there is non :/I wasnt there so i cant tell what they talked but it seems like some players didnt want to test other servers coz the hour... | |
| #36 DeV~ / dmZ« (cLoSE™ ) 6 Jun 2008 15:29 | Reply |
nìtrø` wrote: btw, wasn't there a rule, that you can decline a server if all of the opponent clan are out of the servers country? That rule is still here: If a clan only has lower average ping than it's opponent on it's home country server(s), they are deemed to have PING ADVANTAGE for their server(s) and all other servers should be used in preference. but since the pings were 'equal' on the rd server, there's no way to refuse it, because "If a clan only has lower average ping" ... next time if a clan had 0.000000000001 ms disadvantage, that would refuse if we didn't apply the rule so | |
| #35 nìtrø` (aeiou ) 6 Jun 2008 15:26 | Reply |
btw, wasn't there a rule, that you can decline a server if all of the opponent clan are out of the servers country? | |
| #34 DeV~ / dmZ« (cLoSE™ ) 6 Jun 2008 15:21 | Reply |
mania wrote: 10.2 If a clan only has lower average ping than it's opponent on it's home country server(s), they are deemed to have PING ADVANTAGE for their server(s) and all other servers should be used in preference. 10.6 A home country server is defined as being located in the same country as the majority of the clan's players who performed the server testing, regardless of their personal country preferences on ClanBase. Checks will be based on their ips connected to the server. and i tried to tell Dev about these rules but he just said only ping counts... but hey i dont care this was my last cup anyway! gl in the cup! Heh, read 10.1 pls... Till you don't have more than 125% of their pings during the servertesting, you can't say you have higher pings... What are we talking about? The only server where these conditions were met was the rd server, therefore I forced the match there... If you started having a lot worse pings during the match, then blame your ISP but not me please. (Now let's read the other comments) | |
| #33 HunteR aka H`S (»rd°) 6 Jun 2008 15:21 | Reply |
mania wrote: Soulja wrote: yeah the first 10mins was gg and rly tense.. till we got a cap and they opened the def... so we could cap much more.... and because of the servers... rd public server is idd laggy and bad, but the clan server is fair! and sure i am used to play with ping 60-70... but thats no reason why we should play on a unfair server according the rules... and all UK server are bad for me, not because of ping... but because of all these emormous lag spikes. and rd would be ready to play on a neutral server, but when APOTA come too late, maybe 22.30cet(match time was 22cet) and we know we could play 5 maps, so we hadnt more time to find and test one more server. so i would say everything was handled with the rules, although a forfeit win suxx... especially in the semis -.- so IF/aeiou cu in final^^ we came late? we were on your server waiting for you to come and check the pings... well as far as i know the server test should start like 30 mins before..and when i asked you you said few of your players are playing 3on3.. 10 min before match time we all 8rd) checked pings on your server that server test can go faster..but it wasnt the case..short before 22 cet we all were able to server test which took as I expected almost 20 mins.. + map choose and discussion etc we started much later than match start time and I wanna say what i said in irc yesterday We would maybe have agreed with another german server , if apota would have asked us right after the first map instead of some of them leaving and letting us wait 20-25 mins where we didnt know what would happen.. also noone asked bout another german server before the first map - so all went legally | |
| #32 MST-20mg/1-0-1 aka Jugo (`øD») 6 Jun 2008 14:58 | Reply |
°ròbòt^» wrote: thats so funny...i woke up and saw this just phantastic... we all know that rd public server suxs...but the war server of them is pretty nice tbh...the only server that suxs is apota...not only the public suxs even the war server of them suxs...but its funny how you left AGAIN...2 strikes in a row apota well done go for 3 now... let the flame beginn if u want hahahaha i dont care hahahahame votes hunter of course go for gold rd haha true! go for the third immature action APOTA ;D | |
| #31 bAzco (rtard/) 6 Jun 2008 14:35 | Reply |
[APOTA]Sel2l2an0 wrote: bAzco wrote: [APOTA]Sel2l2an0 wrote: LOL i feel only sadness, but bazco said it "rd server ftw" almost only german people does not have nice lag spikes that freezes u out for a couple of secs... Despite that sorry rd coz APOTA should play all the maps win or loose, imo. Lol dont get me wrong, your server sucks aswell ! Wich one coz we have another private server Then why whine about, not having a 3rd server? anyway you lose, I laugh hf with the rest of the cup.. eehrm.. wait there is non :/ | |
| #30 LûCK°R (LûCK°R) 6 Jun 2008 14:25 | Reply |
rofl... | |
| #29 WiLDBiLL (WiLDBiLL) 6 Jun 2008 14:00 | Reply |
GG voted the Finish Gitshit / aka Meta  Would have voted Maddy if she'd played, guess she must have been busy putting Deity over her knee for a little spanking session! | |
| #28 mania (APOTA ) 6 Jun 2008 13:14 | Reply |
Soulja wrote: yeah the first 10mins was gg and rly tense.. till we got a cap and they opened the def... so we could cap much more.... and because of the servers... rd public server is idd laggy and bad, but the clan server is fair! and sure i am used to play with ping 60-70... but thats no reason why we should play on a unfair server according the rules... and all UK server are bad for me, not because of ping... but because of all these emormous lag spikes. and rd would be ready to play on a neutral server, but when APOTA come too late, maybe 22.30cet(match time was 22cet) and we know we could play 5 maps, so we hadnt more time to find and test one more server. so i would say everything was handled with the rules, although a forfeit win suxx... especially in the semis -.- so IF/aeiou cu in final^^ we came late? we were on your server waiting for you to come and check the pings... | |
| #27 Soulja (»rd°) 6 Jun 2008 13:02 | Reply |
yeah the first 10mins was gg and rly tense.. till we got a cap and they opened the def... so we could cap much more.... and because of the servers... rd public server is idd laggy and bad, but the clan server is fair! and sure i am used to play with ping 60-70... but thats no reason why we should play on a unfair server according the rules... and all UK server are bad for me, not because of ping... but because of all these emormous lag spikes. and rd would be ready to play on a neutral server, but when APOTA come too late, maybe 22.30cet(match time was 22cet) and we know we could play 5 maps, so we hadnt more time to find and test one more server. so i would say everything was handled with the rules, although a forfeit win suxx... especially in the semis -.- so IF/aeiou cu in final^^ | |
| #26 [APOTA]Sel2l2an0 (APOTA ) 6 Jun 2008 12:53 | Reply |
bAzco wrote: [APOTA]Sel2l2an0 wrote: LOL i feel only sadness, but bazco said it "rd server ftw" almost only german people does not have nice lag spikes that freezes u out for a couple of secs... Despite that sorry rd coz APOTA should play all the maps win or loose, imo. Lol dont get me wrong, your server sucks aswell ! Wich one coz we have another private server | |
| #25 Bj0rk!!!;D (`oE~) 6 Jun 2008 12:35 | Reply |
tricky situation.. but well apotas server is rly bad, so why couldnt you guys try to find another NL server instead or smth. btw love all the community fanboys, only in ictf rofl | |
| #24 bAzco (rtard/) 6 Jun 2008 12:25 | Reply |
[APOTA]Sel2l2an0 wrote: LOL i feel only sadness, but bazco said it "rd server ftw" almost only german people does not have nice lag spikes that freezes u out for a couple of secs... Despite that sorry rd coz APOTA should play all the maps win or loose, imo. Lol dont get me wrong, your server sucks aswell ! | |
| #23 °ròbòt^» (`øD») 6 Jun 2008 12:11 | Reply |
thats so funny...i woke up and saw this just phantastic... we all know that rd public server suxs...but the war server of them is pretty nice tbh...the only server that suxs is apota...not only the public suxs even the war server of them suxs...but its funny how you left AGAIN...2 strikes in a row apota well done go for 3 now... let the flame beginn if u want hahahaha i dont care hahahahame votes hunter of course go for gold rd | |
| #22 [GD]Sjeng ([GD] ) 6 Jun 2008 11:33 | Reply |
mania wrote: who said we agreed to this server? it was time to start and the clock was 23.20 if i remember right.. You should arrange all the things BEFORE starttime =) Servertest is normally about 15 mins before the match starts so you could get a other serv. Voted Soul btw =D | |
| #21 mania (APOTA ) 6 Jun 2008 11:31 | Reply |
who said we agreed to this server? it was time to start and the clock was 23.20 if i remember right.. | |
| #20 [GD]Sjeng ([GD] ) 6 Jun 2008 11:29 | Reply |
rd server sux.. we all know that.. but this is your own fault apota.. Why did you agree for that server? it's rly easy to get a 3rd server because yours is dutch lol. Just spam IRC before you start playing xD This is rly sad.. another clan who should fo from cups | |
| #19 mania (APOTA ) 6 Jun 2008 11:27 | Reply |
we had 2 swedish players 1 finnish 1 nl 1 Slovak Republic.... they had 4 germans playing on a german server! they cant lag on a bloody server from their own country like we do from diffrent countrys and pinging 60 on a german server when you are german shouldent be counted tho their problem is probly in their router... this is how i understood the rules... 10.2 If a clan only has lower average ping than it's opponent on it's home country server(s), they are deemed to have PING ADVANTAGE for their server(s) and all other servers should be used in preference. 10.6 A home country server is defined as being located in the same country as the majority of the clan's players who performed the server testing, regardless of their personal country preferences on ClanBase. Checks will be based on their ips connected to the server. and i tried to tell Dev about these rules but he just said only ping counts... but hey i dont care this was my last cup anyway! gl in the cup! | |
| #18 «Zàná» ([SHARP] ) 6 Jun 2008 10:50 | Reply |
well shame it came to this..altho gg on the first map. gl rd in the next match =) | |
| #17 kM.XiFi` (kM. ) 6 Jun 2008 10:26 | Reply |
Well played hunter & soulja. Cant say I am not annoyed at APOTA players leaving the server. rD - Well played. APOTA - Nice Friends & SVK the others have pretty much ruined the only dignity APOTA had left..... | |
| #16 [APOTA]Sel2l2an0 (APOTA ) 6 Jun 2008 10:26 | Reply |
LOL i feel only sadness, but bazco said it "rd server ftw" almost only german people does not have nice lag spikes that freezes u out for a couple of secs... Despite that sorry rd coz APOTA should play all the maps win or loose, imo. | |
| #15 [APOTA]:.:Dan:. ([APOTA]»2) 6 Jun 2008 10:12 | Reply |
ffs!! sorry to apota and to rd tbh. My dad plugged the iron in next door and the power went all over the house so i was left looking at a blank screen. I was so pissed, but i couldn't fix it  sorry (that was before the match started, not cos i left on purpose or nything) | |
| #14 bAzco ({UE} ) 6 Jun 2008 09:35 | Reply |
don't blame lag, blame deity ! lal To bad for the players with real sportsmanship, SvK & Friends/Frenzy. Oh voted the last one, cos I don't know how a dutchy can ping so high in a german server (even though it is rD server)? | |
| #13 »noize« (»iQ« ) 6 Jun 2008 08:29 | Reply |
imho dev did it right lol @ the leaving APOTA players, just think about what you did to the image of your clan^^ omfg @ match time gg rd | |
| #12 nishì_wánchéng (°gs) 6 Jun 2008 08:27 | Reply |
hmm it's to bad that there was only one map... was kinda difficult for me because i was sitting at home for my PC had the SC running and didn't realy know what to talk about... ^^ i think i talk a lot of bull crap but it was still fun so i vote myself for the great SC from me ^^ ah to bad i'm not in the list.. so i vote for outcast. | |
| #11 Ast3rix (»rd°) 6 Jun 2008 07:12 | Reply |
The first map was much closer then it looks like. After about 10 min it was 1:1 and after about 15 min it was 2:1 for rd. Then APOTA opened their def and we could manage some more caps. Then happened something strange. 3 APOTA players left server and doesnt come back. SVK and frenzy tried to get them back, but failed. We waited about 25 mins and the we got forfeit. We didnt accept other server, cause it was 23:30 cet and wanted to go to bad and not to test other server. If we would accept testing other server, we would test minimum until 0:00 cet and play until 1:00-2:00 cet. Thats to late for me and some other rd player. Im sorry about winning like this. I would like to win the match regulary. | |
| #10 MST-20mg/1-0-1 aka Jugo (`øD») 6 Jun 2008 07:02 | Reply |
what a immature behaviour of APOTA! really sad | |
| #9 azoicBioHaZarD / Bayo (azoic ) 6 Jun 2008 05:07 | Reply |
if that's what happens when you lose, then you deserve to lose every fucking map! | |
| #8 AlBundy (AlBundy) 6 Jun 2008 00:45 | Reply |
Not nice, Apota :\ Blame everything on the ping = shit I play on most servers with ping 80+ and don´t whine that hard about laggs So rD deserved to win | |
| #7 «-TuF-Mav-» («-TuF-» ) 6 Jun 2008 00:23 | Reply |
Shame it had to end like this.... TBh i feel a little sorry for Apota as i know Hunter and Soulja ping high to all servers even in their own country due to their routing and are used to playing with such pings. Unfortunate when normally the apota server would ping fairest and atm is probably one of the most even servers out their at this time. I know some germans have slight lagg on the apota server but alot do not, similar to me as my routing does not like german servers. But tbh server was always gonna be an issue in this match. I would have probably tried for a neutral server maybe in the uk because the difference in pings between the individual players would have been less even with soulja and hunter, who if memory serves me correct ping 60-72 on uk servers ( what i mean by this is that most german/nl/swedish players would ping 44-60 on uk server which would be closer to the other higher pinging players. BUt as forest gump would say 'shit happens'. SHame apota didnt finish the game gl rd in final oh and 1 more thing can i recommend that for the Voltage/KM semi final in div 1 they try and borrow the apota server since they are all dutch and tbh i'd hate to see another game with server disputer becuase i know the voltage server has the phantom blue team packet loss bug with all players on that team getting 30-50 p/l..... | |
| #6 «IG°Ste-V» («IG» ) 6 Jun 2008 00:13 | Reply |
haha go soul | |
| #5 EiMìAR (=iF= ) 6 Jun 2008 00:11 | Reply |
deserved loss gg | |
| #4 Ivanhoe (APOTA ) 5 Jun 2008 23:56 | Reply |
øûtçå$t wrote: Hm well gg for the first map, was a close one till the 10th minute... dunno what was wrong with you then ;( anyways wp APOTA and good luck in the 2ns final. Sry for you SvK* & frenzy Try lag beyond belief. And for the record I too left the server, however I was still active on IRC etc. Just closed down UT because I had to restart it anyway | |
| #3 øûtçå$t (»rd°) 5 Jun 2008 23:54 | Reply |
Hm well gg for the first map, was a close one till the 10th minute... dunno what was wrong with you then ;( anyways wp APOTA and good luck in the 2ns final. Sry for you SvK* & frenzy | |
| #2 HunteR aka H`S (»rd°) 5 Jun 2008 23:51 | Reply |
well at least this 1 map was gg - close first 10 mins gl in 2nd final apota voted lng for very good def | |
| #1 DeV~ / dmZ« (cLoSE™ ) 5 Jun 2008 23:50 | Reply |
Thanks Frenzy, SvK and Ivanhoe for trying to get 5 players even after the others left grats rd | |
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