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Reply | 1) Please schedule matches
any matches which are not scheduled on time are forced
you have one week to schedule matches, so no excuses if i force the match on a time which you cannot play.
please avoid delays. seeing that both teams are reluctant to challenge, double no show will be applied.
2) anyone caught hacking and is rwb, please do not invent the most ridiculous excuse that you are not rwb because if you hack, you are asking for your account to be checked.
3) servers should be streamed properly so that matches not would be cancelled
people should check their configs and nade/smoke binds or execs are strictly not allowed. so no excuses for not checking your config.
4) each clan can manually add up to 3 players and 1 player in qualifers. each clan can add people so do not ask me or subway to add players because you can manually do so.
we will only add players if they were in the clan and got removed. we will also add if there is problems to add the player.
anyone caught asking me or subway to add extra players with the reason he did not add 3 people will be removed from the cup.
5) demos should be uploaded immediately
if the match was played on sunday 21:00
the demo request should be made straight after the war maximum 2 hours after and not 24 hours after
the player must upload his demo within maximum of 3 days
excuses for not uploading demos are not tolerated.
timestamps should be done in a maximum of 3 days.
no timestamps within 3 days, real score will be added.
6) Wildcards can be used only BEFORE the match and not AFTER the match.
7) In order to make more clans active
an extension of cup prize will be added to some leagues
and ball award will also be given to 4th place
so make sure you play 3rd/4th place
8) Any problem and scores must be posted on forum. pming me or subway with any problems or something else might get unnoticed.
9) Misbehavior or trying to be a smart guy can result in a postban or warning. offtopic comments can also result in postban.
10) If someone does not like his team to be in that division or if you see any unbalanced groups please pm me and state your reasons why you think you should not be put in that particular division or if some groups are unbalanced.
11) map list
First week mp_toujane
Second week mp_dawnville
Third week mp_carentan
Fourth week mp_burgundy
Fifth week mp_matmata
rounds are played mr12mode
first pistol bash is done and the winning team chooses side
12) any problems or misunderstanding can be posted in the forum
13) not knowing these rules, does not mean you will not be punished
I hope for a better opencup then last season |
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RE:Very important rules please read
- gefee - SacreBleu  - Wed 11 Apr 16:25
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Reply | 11) map list
First week mp_toujane
Second week mp_dawnville
Third week mp_carentan
Fourth week mp_burgundy
Fifth week mp_matmata
Why there is no other maps in map list? This is same list than earlier. I would like to get an anwers with the reasons please.
Isn't this cup where we fight for ranking? Skill should be most important factor but seems this is another "being toujane pro-cup"... Is it skill when you can succees in toujane but you lack in another maps? You did well when you import wallendar etc in NC but also bring those maps to whole CoD2 scene. |
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RE:Very important rules please read
- zodja - cbpolice. - Wed 11 Apr 20:06
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Reply | +1 would like to see rhine and vallente in the mappool.
groupstage is fine with the casual ones , but in playoffs you could add those maps to the pool. |
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RE:Very important rules please read
- tomY - COREPLAY  - Wed 11 Apr 21:08
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Reply | Skill should be most important factor but seems this is another "being toujane pro-cup"
Excuse me, but i see Burgundy, Carentan, Dawnville and Matmata near Toujane, so can't get your point. That's 5 maps where you can proof your skill, 5 maps !
Is it skill when you can succees in toujane but you lack in another maps?
And what are you trying to say exactly? That skill should be when you can success at 'random maps' but you lack at Toujane, Burgundy etc.?
You did well when you import wallendar etc in NC but also bring those maps to whole CoD2 scene.
Maybe cause there is 7 teams in 1 group, so you need 6 maps at group stage, that's why Rhine is in. Here you got 6 teams, 5 maps in group, which means 5 LAN maps.
And please stop acting like you can change this with bringing random maps into ladders. Same goes for Jikser. How can you force someone to play your random map, for example Decoy, if that team doesn't want to?! How can you actually force anyone to do anything he doesn't want to?! If you don't like it, don't play it. You are free to create your own hosted or quick cup, so make rules and maps there like you want to. Also, you can always start your own organization with your own rules.
Point here is that you can't force me to do anything i don't want to. My mom can't do that anymore, so you wont either. Have a nice day. |
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RE:Very important rules please read
- gefee - SacreBleu - Thu 12 Apr 04:32
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Reply | Excuse me, but i see Burgundy, Carentan, Dawnville and Matmata near Toujane, so can't get your point. That's 5 maps where you can proof your skill, 5 maps !
So, you missed the point. What was so hard on it? As you see: there were same 5 maps in couple of last OC.
This is not even old tradion. For example Fall 2010:
http://clanbase.ggl.com/rules.php?lid=11256#chap_1262
Another example Spring 2010:
http://clanbase.ggl.com/rules.php?lid=10469#chap_1178
Even older example: Fall 2006
http://clanbase.ggl.com/rules.php?lid=2727#chap_98
Fall 2005, first CoD2 OC:
http://clanbase.ggl.com/rules.php?lid=2401#chap_98
And there is match from that cup:
http://clanbase.ggl.com/news_league.php?nid=199168&lid=2401
And please stop acting like you can change this with bringing random maps into ladders. Same goes for Jikser. How can you force someone to play your random map, for example Decoy, if that team doesn't want to?! How can you actually force anyone to do anything he doesn't want to?! If you don't like it, don't play it. You are free to create your own hosted or quick cup, so make rules and maps there like you want to. Also, you can always start your own organization with your own rules.
I would rotate this. Teams force us to play their maps what are TJ, BG and DW. It's fact. Why I should suffer because there is teams who refuse to play maps. Teams who refuses to play some maps should suffer.
I don't have to go anywhere else to play because I still remeber the times when teams played all maps without whining. I'd like to keep personal insults away but you cannot remember those times mr.2k10.
Usually people keeps old teams better than new teams and so do I. One reason of that those teams know how to play ALL maps instead of TJ BG and DW...
So, let me ask you again. Don't you see the problem? |
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RE:Very important rules please read
- tomY - COREPLAY - Thu 12 Apr 15:35
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Reply | Teams force us to play their maps what are TJ, BG and DW. It's fact. Why I should suffer because there is teams who refuse to play maps. Teams who refuses to play some maps should suffer.
No one is forcing you to play Toujane, Burgundy, Dawnville as you say. If you don't want to play it, then don't. Find some team who will play some other map and problem is solved. For example if i find you on mIRC, you say i don't want to play those 3 maps, i can't make you to play them. I will say bb than and good luck with finding someone else.
I don't have to go anywhere else to play because I still remeber the times when teams played all maps without whining. I'd like to keep personal insults away but you cannot remember those times mr.2k10.
Well, obviously that time has changed, so wcyd arguing with you about it. I was, and i am talking about the time right now.
And no, i don't see the problem. I don't want to play maps like Rhine, Vallente etc and you can't make me to play it. Same as i can't make you to play football if you don't want to, if you prefer basketball. WCYD |
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RE:Very important rules please read
- gefee - SacreBleu - Thu 12 Apr 16:25
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Reply | No one is forcing you to play Toujane, Burgundy, Dawnville as you say. If you don't want to play it, then don't. Find some team who will play some other map and problem is solved. For example if i find you on mIRC, you say i don't want to play those 3 maps, i can't make you to play them. I will say bb than and good luck with finding someone else.
That is forcing. Teams have home maps what they are used to play. It's called home map for purpose.
I don't want to play maps like Rhine, Vallente etc and you can't make me to play it.
Why you don't like to play those maps? Many teams say that but they newer give any arguments why not to play. There must be some reasons why not to play. Please write them.
I don't expect that you write, so I do.
- New maps allows to camp:
A: All maps allows to camp, also TJ, BG and DW.
- Not a lanmap:
A: There is multiple lan maps what are not played now in EC OC. For example: Trainstation, Villers-Bocage, Rhine. Best of all, Vallente is made for lans.
- We don't have skill to play those maps. We don't know even places and opponent have all tactical nades and good places to shoot us.
A: Maps aren't so hard learn. Most of nades what I throw is random throws. Teams must have co-work to get plant down. This game is played in 5on5 format, not 1on1 so this is team based game. Toujane is much more shooting range than map what requires teamwork.
Same as i can't make you to play football if you don't want to, if you prefer basketball. WCYD
I can't do nothing except write here and bumping this thread. Old times were better and I'd like to bring those times back. You can't say anything on it was there a better times or not.
I keep CB just little ill and what I am trying to treat it.
Parable of football and basketball is not valid because I am not offering Quake III to you. We're playing a transverse field not lengthwise as we should. |
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RE:Very important rules please read
- tomY - COREPLAY - Thu 12 Apr 16:29
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Reply | | My point in whole this story was that you can't make anyone to do anything he doesn't want to. Last comment, have a nice day. |
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RE:Very important rules please read
- gefee - SacreBleu - Thu 12 Apr 19:02
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Reply | This is good conversation. Really, pff... I ask you something but you don't answer. I'd like to hear arguments. Don't talk in forums if you can't tell reasons behind your opinions.
As you all see, people like tomY are making this community even sicker. Will we see the day when there is only allowed to play toujane/toujane in every match?
I am not the guy who forces teams to play. You are that guy who forces another team to pick one of maps what you allow. I don't say bb if you like to play map like leningrad because it's your choise. Every team have option to play any map what they will and it's also said in rules. You are taking this option away in sd ladders. |
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RE:Very important rules please read
- tomY - COREPLAY - Thu 12 Apr 19:59
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Reply | Will we see the day when there is only allowed to play toujane/toujane in every match?
If that's how most of this community would like to, then yes. Same as now, 95% or even more are avoiding these maps and that's how it is.
Creating a new ladder just for this custom maps would be fine, i am just curious what would be the activity of that ladder. Changing some rules in this normal EU ladders is, i am afraid, not possible. Why? As i said, more then 95% of the community don't want to play Decoy, Rhine, Vallente etc. |
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RE:Very important rules please read
- gefee - SacreBleu - Fri 13 Apr 01:21
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Reply | Where you got that 95%? From your sleeve?
Avoiding of those maps is result, not a cause.
One of causes to avoid those maps are that there isn't such as maps in cups and in result: there is no need to practise.
Still I'd like to get answer why to avoid those maps? Rhine is combination of 2 maps what is Carentan and Burgundy. You said earlier that both maps are ok to you. Why Rhine isn't?
Vallente is also very close to Burgundy. I still can't understand your reasons to avoid those maps. |
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