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Reply | hi,
This is the demo of a player from Murder Inc who played against us in the OC (with UAC).
I already have my opinion about this but i just wanted to ask you guys what you think about it, whatch the hunt demo.
Thx
http://www57.zippyshare.com/v/3606286/file.html |
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RE:boy91 from Murder Inc
- aG|Oxburk^ - aG  - Fri 20 Apr 00:27
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Reply | | The first half of hunt was enough to give me an opinion of it. |
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Reply | well I would say he was cheating 
but axis is even funnier, u should watch it oxburk lol
so easy to know your predictions (c) kode |
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RE:boy91 from Murder Inc
- boy91 - Inc. - Fri 20 Apr 13:05
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Reply | hatchet talking about others cheating...quelle surprise.
kode killed me 2 times in a row, he must be cheating © hatchet
I had to cheat on the other map cause I thought kode was cheating © hatchet
I only cheat when I think the enemy is cheating, which is basically every war because I'm a paranoid lunatic piece of shit who can't play this game © hatchet
I tried to kill myself 3 times last year, with no success © drunk hatchet |
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Reply | mad bro? and i never said any of this shit except, " YES IM GOING TO HACK BECAUSE KODE IS CHEATING FOR SURE
and trust me the first clan going down after mohaac arrives, nubhead... |
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RE:boy91 from Murder Inc
- .Xzibit - GV - Fri 20 Apr 22:52
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Reply | always the same whinners
hatcher the egypt guy is talking about cheats ll0l
and maladick whinner who cant lose
Murder Inc is one of the cleanest clan atm and they dont cheat.
Nowadays you cannot be good mohaa player , if you are , you cheat !!!
sad |
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RE:boy91 from Murder Inc
- Jane - pH - Sun 22 Apr 19:13
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Reply | | He plays with the brain not with cheat |
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RE:boy91 from Murder Inc
- boy91 - Inc. - Fri 20 Apr 12:53
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Reply | I can't believe i even have to defend myself here as vengeance played this war incredibly bad. They basically just ran into my crosshair as u can see but whatever.
If you're talking about my down bath actions, after killing 2 or 3 guys from clipping it's just normal that i try to take down the whole team taking many risks cause all my teammates were back at village or church. i mean after killing 2-3 guys it doesnt matter if i die or not, so i just take risks and try to kill all of u. It's just common sense really..
Anyways please tell me exactly what parts you find weird and why, i can explain them all if you're so paranoid.
btw as kode said i was the only one who had actual screens of the game taken, i find it quite ironic that i'm the one accused.
Et nefret serieux admets juste que vous avez trop mal joué, je suis bas baignoire comme un gitan et vous courez tous dans mon viseur wtf. |
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Reply | | At the outset, the only "not allowed" thing there, is just ur team several nade bugs at 1st round. I would say he was clearly cheating only if u post here his teammates demos, to see if someone was covering behind bath at first round in axis. When he's down bath, u can see him "switching sides", watching left and right, like no one was covering his back, but suddenly he stop that "switching", to only cover down bath exactly at timing the other guy was coming. Ask for others players demos. Anyway I have my doubts and the rest of that hunt demo, isn't a clear proof of cheating for me. I also didn't see v2. |
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Reply | | For me, that's the only round that I can say something, if I was to ban him like democrew do. All the rest, u can't say it clear that he cheats, cause all things that happen, dont give you 100% sure. Obviously that's not the only dodgy thing, but other dodgy moves I pushed them out of "cheats" category, due to several factors that justify what he did or didn't. You must be 100% sure to ban someone, and if he says that one of u made noise behind bath pulling a nade, giving him "confidence" to watch just between houses, my final opinion is definitely "no". |
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RE:boy91 from Murder Inc
- boy91 - Inc. - Fri 20 Apr 13:09
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Reply | | I just took a risk and watched the main side of bath for a few seconds, which is where the enemy is the most likely to come from. No, no one was covering me. |
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RE:boy91 from Murder Inc
- kode - Inc. - Fri 20 Apr 05:43
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Reply | okay nefret so the first 3 replies came from the known hackers. you must be convinced now that patu was cheating arent you ??!!?  D anyway theres a zero tolenrance for cheating in my team and i know for the fact that he was clean and has always been so. as a matter of fact he was the only player in this war whos screens were not black/grey.
http://www47.zippyshare.com/v/93342930/file.html
have fun watching it ( little warning sign its kinda boring ) but since you guys have absolutely nothing else to do in friday i think it'll make your day. <3 |
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Reply | | loled at known hackers sad thing is everyone is accusing you guys of cheating, and I already said you'll be the first clan to fall down when the mohaac arrives, HAVE A BREAK HAVE A KITKAT <3 |
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RE:boy91 from Murder Inc
- snj - Inc. - Fri 20 Apr 14:10
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Reply | "everyone is accusing of you guys of cheating"
183 wars with this clan and we have been accused maybe 3-4 times and half of those are from you so fuck off random neverheard retard nobody cares about your opinion |
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Reply | its funny how he goes "?" and let his team go infront so they can spot vengeance and when the round is nearly ended he goes look in the right places.
i've watched it without a cheat @ first and it looked weird. but it even looked more weird with a cheat on.
like his random nade @ dancefloor... i reckon it went into the doorway/stairs or something.
1st 2 rounds he plays like a slow mofo. but then he decides to rush and do a random nade where glen- is..
anyway .... it just looks dodgy but thats my opinion |
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RE:boy91 from Murder Inc
- lexi - Inc. - Fri 20 Apr 12:51
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Reply | yo, just here to give u my opinion and please dont feel offended ( to all who think p@tu is cheating ) but my first reaction to the cheat comments was LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL :|
Before I start with anything else I gotta say I have a lot of respect to these vengeance guys as they never said a single word of whine in the whole war, and I do feel that if they want an explanation for some actions then they deserve to get it. They also have a very good reputation of being clean and fair guys so on that note I'm quite sad about this. However, us getting accused lately is nothing new, which is probably due to us actually playing with teamplay and taking rounds slow instead of rushing around like brainless chickens as we used to do. Anyway, to get a better picture you need to keep in mind the other players as well and what they see and hear, you forget the entire teamspeak aspect of the game, advice from other players, experience etc....Of course, a big part of p@tus game has always been risks and the chances he takes, sometimes they pay off and he pulls off immense stuff like today, sometimes they end bad and it all just looks very silly.
I'm not gonna lie but im quite speechless, and I will actually laugh my ass off if more people find this to be a "cheat" demo.
Also the people who commented here (besides nefret) are people who are paranoid about cheats, who also have a habit of cheating themselves. Lets just take a look at the closest examples of Hatchet and nightmare..enough said, both people who have cheated us in the close past due to the fact they thought we were cheating. The only difference here is that this time the suspect is patu, in the past its been everyone else, mostly kode.
I suggest if you have specific actions you want an explanation for, we will be very happy to explain them even though this whole thing feels stupid.
peace xx |
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Reply | | My opinion it was a clean war from both sides and the better team won and probably going to win this cup as there are not many teams that can beat them, they are in our group and we expect to get beat aswel. |
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Reply | | Church camping in that 2on2 vs @ Hunt 1st round of the war aint camping man! Just tactical play! |
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Reply | First off im not a sick retard who cheats and telling everyone its skills and keep talking trash.
I have nothing against any of you its true i accused kode 2 times and do not tell me to watch his demo, about the reconnect part as i just said i told every1 i was going to hack because i was getting hacked aswell plus kode were weird hunting me every round on bushes while im crouching which is kinda impossible to see me, and he comes up with a comment " so easy predictions "
and snj if you don't care about my opinion u shouldn't be that mad clown... |
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RE:boy91 from Murder Inc
- snj - Inc. - Fri 20 Apr 18:34
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Reply | | Im not mad just laughing to some 2012 hero acting so high and mighty. |
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Reply | | says some1 who played only for 3 clans,u mad clown? |
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Reply | | Those 3 clans have achieved more than yours ever will. That being said, anyone is entitled to having his or her opinion on a certain demo. I'll look at the demo and forward it to the demo crew. |
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Reply | | lol doesn't give him the right to call me names.... i just gave my opinion. |
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Reply | | just watch it without .pk3... its obvious that he's not cheating, and u should give other clan 3 months ban for bug nades |
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Reply | Im normally the first to accuse
But I watched allied hunt and didn't see anything I'd construe as cheating. Maybe once when he moves backward to look up police but I doubt it
However I would say your clan got immensely unlucky and that 12-2 wasnt deserved. |
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Reply | I'd just like to add, I watched this demo with cheats OFF, as everyone should do, when they want to know if a demo is 'dodgy' from a normal players perspective. To watch a demo with cheats on, gives 50% of kills a slight suspicion. Also, I've never seen patu accused of cheats, in years of mohaa. BUT, when you watch his demo here, you can see that his style of play is not normal (on hunt) - he is lazy and drags his crosshair over walls without leaning, because in my mind, he is watching the action unfold that way. I say its not normal, because this is not his normal way of playing (or anyones for that matter) - but hey, who gives a shit. !
Mohaa doesnt have an anti-cheat, so no point to even try and compalin about cheating. Just dont play.  |
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RE:boy91 from Murder Inc
- lexi - Inc. - Fri 20 Apr 13:50
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Reply | | you are right about the fact that he is unique in terms of his style of play, he plays different from anyone i've ever played with, and people who actually have played alongside him will know this and no it does not mean that he cheats ;d |
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RE:boy91 from Murder Inc
- illskillz^ - UK  - Sat 21 Apr 13:12
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Reply | | Doubt he cheats.. played with and against him many times. Just a bunch of slow motherfuckaz xxxxxxxxxxx |
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RE:boy91 from Murder Inc
- lexi - Inc. - Fri 20 Apr 13:47
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Reply | | and in this round i specifically said on ts "someone come cover me im gonna nade up police" patu came and got the easy frag ;p (if this is the round i think ur talking about) |
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Reply | he moves forward to look at police. the guys naded thrice so u know hes there anyway
then moves backward slightly looks odd but hes def not cheating
also lexi, compare this one to trances demo -> major difference |
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RE:boy91 from Murder Inc
- nash - syntax  - Fri 20 Apr 14:10
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Reply | | dont think hes cheating |
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RE:boy91 from Murder Inc
- boy91 - Inc. - Fri 20 Apr 14:16
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Reply | | I see what you mean, when I went forward to cover lexi I saw maybe a pixel of the enemy's helmet. So then I went backward as I knew he was there. Look closely, you'll see him during 0.0003 seconds. (Ofc you have to look without cheats) |
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Reply | | I watched it with pk3s in and you can quite clearly see red people running everywhere. explain that! |
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Reply | Okay so obviously this is going to sound biased since I've played with the finns, but honestly there's no cheating in that hunt demo.
There's a total of one action that has "cheats" written all over it, and that's right before he goes into position to kill the guy top police, a skin gets visible in church and as that happens, he stops for no reason. That would be a typical "cheat sign", when you see a skin and go: okay, how should I respond?
If you want to base some1 is cheating on one, completely irrelevant action; Then be my guests, however I'd advice against it.
The rest of the demo really has nothing with cheats to do. All the other stuff is logical and not weird, the actions down bath aren't any dodgy at all. "Looking at bath entrance at the right time": A nade is pulled back of bath, eliminating the threat of them coming to get him from there at that time.
Being sloppy with his aim when he considers there is no real threat isn't weird either, I never give a shit where my aim is either if I don't think there's anything to be worried about. |
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Reply | | looks like u got unlucky with ur gayhuntbacktactiks to me but what do i know |
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Reply | | yeah, i never said they cheated. they just play dodgy that's all |
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RE:boy91 from Murder Inc
- Gr1m- - oOo. - Fri 20 Apr 18:22
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Reply | | snore, inc and whoever the demo is about didnt care to check but i guess its patu, no doesnt cheat. |
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Reply | | really weird demo, he might have cheated |
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Reply | | how can you say that with so sure? lol and u're in democrew rofl |
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Reply | | with so sure? u gotta work ur english. |
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RE:boy91 from Murder Inc
- DRG - Inc. - Sat 21 Apr 17:09
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Reply | | ill do him a favour then.. 'with such certainty' |
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Reply | | ill do you both a favour then.. 'he might have cheated' |
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RE:boy91 from Murder Inc
- illskillz^ - UK - Sat 21 Apr 13:15
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Reply | Doubt he cheated Dolmus lover.. I believe you need more than 1 demo of proof to believe someone is cheating.
Being the most amazing player myself.. I make dodgy shots and movements every MOHAA day of my mother bitching life.. but that's mostly to do with 95% MOHAA skills, which make kills reguarding of my aiming skillz xxxx |
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Reply | Hey,
I also don't think hes cheating. |
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RE:boy91 from Murder Inc
- brouwR- - oOo. - Sat 21 Apr 18:00
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Reply | After checking the demo and seeing ur line up, any decent team wouldve been able to get 23-5 ;/
oh btw, demo looks clean, nothing special rly |
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RE:boy91 from Murder Inc
- Gr1m- - v3x - Sat 21 Apr 20:43
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Reply | | watched allies hunt nothing dodgey at all, other than vengeance playing absolute dog getting naded at dancefloor 24 7 rofl |
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RE:boy91 from Murder Inc
- o_0 - |T| - Sun 22 Apr 17:48
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Reply | I didn't watch the demo, But im sure that he is clean
:xx |
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RE:boy91 from Murder Inc
- ashx - wizards - Mon 23 Apr 19:56
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Reply | | Then guys, you should unban gr4nj3r0 . Cuz is obv that he NEVER cheated. |
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