I was banned for the same reason. I got the opengl32.dll since dmw3 didn´t scan me. I downloaded the first version of UAC and i got banned in my first scan. Cb decided to ban me 6 months for this reason.
I have to say that it´s a bit weird: u has been banned for that when u have already been scanned and not detected as cheat in other matches in the past. Why? I suppose that u could modify ur main in this match... that´s the most logical thing.
also if he got caught yesterday by uac, how come as uure saying he cheated for the last two-tree months and stayed clean/without any bans ? there was no such updates of uac including any changes in cheats detections as far as i saw..
And he was proper poor in the ones he played with UAC. I find it funny some people are thick enough to deny he was cheating after he´s been banned by UAC because cheats were detected when he was in a server.
edit: if you look at his UAC account you can see the same cheat has been registered on multiple wars beside the one he got caught in. Honestly Michal, you really, really can not go around denying it.
explain what the fact within your EA games folder you had a file called opengl32.dll which has about 5/6 hacks included within 1 file.
is this going to be another case of my mohaa was downloaded from google and i had no idea this file was a cheat or my grans brother sisters auntys uncles dog was playing mohaa on my computer at this time and it was not me ?
i dont have all the answers like the most intelligent mohaa player (Maladict).
i've checked both files: 1st- the one that frogi uploaded for uac admins, and the 2nd - the one which is used by demo crew admins and contains cheats.
Both files have the same size ( !!! ) but they are different inside. The one which was uploaded by Frogi doens't have commands to remove fog or putting on a wh like it is in the admins version of file. There are no such commands... at all.
But why such file gets into mohaa folder?? i can only remember one thing when we needed to use such trick: Some of You remember that DMW was kicking because of wrong opengl file. The solution for this problem was to put the right opengl file into the mohaa folder, and this DMW error dissapeared. But we have 2012 and there is no need to do such things....
If hostile doesn't cheat then I can promise you that there's no way in hell frogi ever cheated. The actions hostile has pulled off in matches against me have been so pathetically blatant it isn't even funny.
What's next, you going to tell me no one in dA cheated either?
i still don't believe it Half of mohaa players have democrew wh/sh/pk3 admin pack for watching demos. One of those files is opengl32.dll which has the same size that frogi posted for admins, but it's different inside. So tell me, how long should we w8 till someone else forgot to delete these files from his mohaa folder after watching someones demos??
I'm trying to be objective and i'm not judging unless i will have a real proof. Getting into a war with a file that is detected by old dmw2, dmw3, dmw pro, reverend and probably by pandora isn't a proof for me that he tried to cheat somebody.
I'm not defending him. The only thing is that, someone who says this player must be a cheater just because he got into a war with a well known and detectable file is wrong and have to think about it. Do U really think that if Frogi wanted to hax someone he would use such file? I'm pretty sure that it's just a matter of time that someone else will be banned for the same file.
Once again for the record: Frogi's file and the WH-file from democrew's pack are DIFFERENT. Dunno what it's for or what it does but it's not the same file, like someone accused him of it. If he cheated, he should be punished. But most of you just want to boost up your egos by saying: "Oh. They got him... so i also got cheated by him for sure." Please consider all possibilities.
Some players have opengl32.dll file in their mohaa folder. I talked in irc channel with about 10 people about this situation, and 4 of them found out that they have opengl file in their mohaa folder. But when they deleted it, they still could run the game.
Frogi posted his opengl file from his mohaa folder. Can someone else check if this file is working for him, because i tested it with 3 different pc's, and 2 of my friends also tested it, and we cant run mohaa. Console error appears :/
why would he has this fucking opengl in his main ? u dont have to have it clean or not.
Thats all. so who care if he's saying ye but my opengl32 was clean blablabla. I know atleast 10 opengl32 with hack in it ... but FROGI use the only one safe WICH U DONT NEED IT TO RUN MOHAA ... Bit funny...
Lol zombi, I don't think anyone uses a bypass to check demos with WH. I believe everyone uses a pk3. You're being quite naive, if this was someone like andre or let's say, hybris, two guys that I think would never cheat, then ye he could have forgotten it demo watching, but when it's frogi, a guy that has been accused by the whole mohaa community.. 2+2=4.
I am having so much fun when I see all the polak people who try to "defend" the fact that the file wasn't a cheat...
If that situation had happenned to someone who had never been accused of cheating (except all the shit whine), i would have said " ok maybe its an error... but guys, we are fucking talking about FROGI, the guy who is suspected to be a cheater by almost ALL THE COMMUNITY of Mohaa! There were some demos which clearly showed he was obvious!! There is no doubt we can have, he is a fucking cheater , and the ban is welcome
http://clanbase.ggl.com/forum.php?fid=9910&zid=00FF7603
It was this topic then neferian the topic starter said " I re-watched the demo and found this a bit stupid.
Demo doesn't prove 100% that hes cheating althought hes still dodgy. And seeing like this I shouldn't have posted this."
but yea go on
Well the thing is, i have been caught by UAC for forgetting to remove my chams by accident. I believe this was in a war against zombi/probe9. They made sure I wasnt to be banned (thank you!) so why isnt the same beeing done for someone like frogi who obviously should be more important to them than me.
maybe its because of this comment.............
i quote dexus from a forum post on UAC.
{USSP} DExUS | UAC admin | a day ago
Sorry, the file sent was clean, however it is not the one detected. His case will not be investigated in any depth due to this lie.
[topic closed]
So if you have nothing to fear, why do you send him the wrong file? Seems like you fucking yourself over or I'm really curious what excuse you are gonna come up with now. Lieing about something when you feel you havent done anything wrong seems abit weird.....
That's the point.he didn't lie. When U got kicked by uac u don't know why. It doesn't say what file was wrong or something. I asked uac admins why he got banned and than they told me because of the opengl file. So I told Frogi to upload his opengl file and I sent him a link to uac forum. But he didn't check which uac file should he post and simply he uploaded his windows opengl like it was with dmw. And that's all... Unlucky for him. Now uac admins think that he wanted to trick them and they don't want to talk with anybody about his case. They simply closed the topic....ul.
He sent the wrong opengl to the admin by mistake whereas he deleted the good one to be able to come back clean against KOREA. It's clearly not by bad luck that he sent the wrong one to the admins then.
ye first was my mistake I was late @ football match zombi call to me to send this file and I sent opengl from windows (found by windows search) When I back I send good file , he told me yes its this file and this is cheat :/ reason ? The same size like cheats , but he dont want to check this file and he dont want to talk anymore I send him about four , five mails but he didnt respond. situation is so sick like SMOLENSK disaster ! he dont want to do something. And I am banned @UAC
you know whats also weird (what i mentioned b4) that when you joined the server, uac3 said: cheater detected, u LEFT the server to delete the file (HOW DO U KNOW??) and came back CLEAN
about 1/3 players have 2 different opengl files on their hard drives. 1st is that one from windows folder, and the second one is in their mohaa folder. This last file is being created by the game while using old or specific types of graphic cards. Mohaa is using several "graphical commands" and when you are using an old or weird () graphic card, these commands might not be included in opengl file provided with the driver. In such case, mohaa is creating the additional opengl file which has these missing information.
What is more, during the game mohaa is creating some other temporary files that you can see only when You run the game and go back to windows without closing it ( Alt+enter ).
This case is an old issue, and with actual graphic cards, there is no such problems like missing command lines in opengl files. But if u have Your mohaa folder (created 6 or 10 years ago on your old, made of wood PC), you can find out that You also can have this additional opengl. If you don't believe me, pls, try to ask your friends, or simply go to irc channel, and ask people. I did it, and from 10 players, 4 still had this additional opengl file.
But as some will say: They didn't get kicked because of that file. From the conversation in forum with UAC admin, it looks like sometimes this anticheat is kicking because of this additional opengl. Then they ask player to upload his file. Frogi did it, but they didn't tell him why this file is forbidden. Just hax. lol
I hope i cleared a bit this situation with additional opengl file *,..,*
i'm not explaining if he has cheats or not. If this file was a cheat, than Frogi should stay banned on UAC. The only problem is that, clanbase is banning for a period of time. Depends of what kind of hack did he use. U can see people banned for 3 months, 6 months, a year, 10 years or 20 years....omg . Clanbase admins should know what for he was banned to choose a punishment. If UAC admins won't tell why he was banned, frogi will get only 3 months ban, for a trace of cheat. I think not many people would be happy with that
I only wanted to show u, that having opengl file in the mohaa folder isn't always a cheat.
1) First of April, frogi has "Cheat Found" on http://uac.ac/#player/id=8795. In that match, only the first screenshot is not clean. This means frogi knew at that moment what file was making his game not clean from UAC's point of view.
2) Today, I checked his uac profile again and frogi has now "Cheat Found" in 3 different match IDs. In these IDs, no screenshot is clean. The weird thing is that the ID from the First of April is chronologically the last one, whereas when everyone checked frogi's profile on the first of April, it was the only one that had "Cheat Found". Another thing is that when you click on the screenshots of the 2 IDs before the first of April's ID, it says that frogi is already flagged as cheater, which would mean UAC scanned the screenshots from the 1st of April before the others from March?! How comes these detections only appear now? Match IDs are 11303717 (from March 19, 2012 23:10) and 11304578 (from March 20, 2012 20:55).
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frogi :
there is no comunicat what file was wrong so admin told me that is this file. If someone can cheat with this file pls show me
When did the admin tell what file was wrong?
After the 1st of April's war? If so, frogi must be guilty because it's proven by point 1) that he knew, during the match, what file was responsible for him being detected as a cheat user.
Before the 1st of April's war (and after one of the two March IDs) ? If so, why didn't he clean everything before playing again?
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How comes he was able, just after having been caught, to be seen clean by UAC in the war against KOREA if he didn't know what file was responsible for him to be scanned not clean? Yes because he said he didn't know what file was responsible for him to be scanned not clean, otherwise he wouldn't have sent the wrong opengl file.
he told us that he used mohaa cleaner, because he didn't know if he didn't left something after watching somebody's demo... but w/e. i have no idea why the uac didn't show that he has something wrong in those two wars before... :/
I didnt watching somebody's demo .... I just use mohacleaner , coz there was no comunicat from UAC about whats wrong...
dont know what going on with my UAC profile , coz now http://uac.ac/#player/id=8795
This player has cheated before. (last detected: 2 hours ago) :| I cant login to my accoung coz its banned , now I got 11 times cheating :| its sick and other reasons are : Found by review
Admin review .....
I didnt watch demos since a couple of months , and last change in my main was adding costum maps
i checked why those previous wars ( 19 and 20 of March ) didn't show before that he had something wrong:
It looks like when UAC kicked him, admins checked why he got banned and than reviewed all wars from the previous week. You can check that in his UAC profile under "Cheat history". In only one war he got kicked by the UAC. Other marked wars are assigned as "Found by review. Admin review".
As clanbase, we still didn't get an information from UAC admins, what kind of cheat he had.
The most strange thing for me is that, in his cheat history there is a "gap". He was banned for one war, and than, when they reviewed other wars, they found that he also had the same bad files before. So what? UAC is really finding cheats once a month, and than admins have to check all earlier wars to find out if he also used some files before? In other words: Why the hell UAC (without an update) is banning people, and not system, but admins have to check history if he wasn't clean before? Shouldn't he be kicked before if he had the same files before? I hope u know what i wanted to say... In last war he was banned by UAC, and yesterday UAC admins reviewed his matches from last one or two weeks and... they found out that he also had those files. Why didn't he got banned before while he had the same files, which banned him now? strange...
For me it means 3 things: 1st - UAC is scanning randomly and we can play against cheaters and we even don't know that. 2nd. You can get banned for some random files, which before were allowed by the UAC system. 3rd. Our CB rules system is bad, because we have to keep our demos and ss's for about a week after the war, while long after the match some UAC guys says :"hey, you cheated a month ago. I've just checked it. Our program didn't catch You but w/e." So if this time frogi didn't get catch by UAC, he would still play with the same files?
Main question for those who don't want to read my essays ():
Why Frogi got banned for a war a week ago, while "YESTERDAY" uac admins said that he also had those files in a previous matches? Why they detected it "YESTERDAY" not before he was banned by UAC??
Because UAC is a cheat database. And new cheats are being added all the time. The one frogi had wasn't in the database yet since a while. Then it was , frogi used it and he got caught. Since UAC works really close with every league they work with , the game admins probably asked them to do a check-up since his history and reputation is well known.
As for Little , the fact they both got banned says enough. These polish players were good before but suddenly rose to a 'sublime' level since UAC came out. Everybody knew they weren't clean , there were like dozens of clan who didn't even want to play you polaks anymore because you'd get cheated out for sure.
Putting an opengl in your main is just bullshit man. They can both say what they want but if an opengl was on your pc it should be in your DMW folder or system32 , not in the main . Putting an opengl in your main clearly shows that it's not by accident. Probably some random openhl hack they downloaded and tested on UAC.
And stating that the UAC admins didn't chat with frogi is wrong. They chatted with him alright . He told them it wasn't a cheat so he gave them the file that got him banned. The admins only had to check for like 2 seconds but immediately saw that the filesize wasn't the same and the coding was different aswell.
Finnaly , the monkey came out of the sleeve (c) graphy
i will totally remove to you from everything (c) SnideR
as i said before, u can only write "opengl32.dll in mohaa folder" and those pages will be in the top 5 of google's results...
i'm not trying to protect anyone. i just don't want to ban people, just because they have opengl32.dll in their mohaa folder, if this file isn't reported and checked before as a cheat...
they didn't have it in c:/mohaa/main but in c:/mohaa, so outside this folder. And since when opengl in mohaa folder has to be cheat? I c u didn't read what was written in these links i gave. If someone cheated, he should be punished. But i won't agree to ban people just because they had an opengl in their game folder, and admins won't tell us what's wrong with that. There should be at least a little bit of justice.
Same would happen with other players. If someone is getting unfairly banned, than we're trying to help him. Everyone is clean until U prove that he's not.
We won't protect cheaters.
why when people like U loose some war, they're starting whining and insulting others?? If u got cheated in some ladder war, than get some evidence, demos, ss's and stop crying. This topic is about different case than your whining...
Do you have any proof except frogi's & little's word that it was found in their main ? And no i didn't check some random ass links about an opengl since i can't give a rat's ass about reading some forum posts made by some geeks. Who the fuck searches about mohaa opengl on google anyway -_-
And btw , explain , how does it come , the same file get's found in some wars and not in all of them . If it'd truly been a clean opengl , it should've been backtraced to every single war he played with uac. But noooo , it was only find in some wars , not even the entire time during the war.
try to open their previous wars... u can't. That's why they can't check if they had these files before :/ As i remember, uac is checking files 30 days backwards. In this case we can't check if they had this files earlier or not...
but it isn't really matter now... i will do what i have to do.
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there was no such updates of uac including any changes in cheats detections as far as i saw..
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