A midweek clash between the German and Belgian/Dutch clan in Group B!
First level: TO-Getaway (
)Getaway ended in a small, but yet so important lead for Imperium.
Screenshots:
#Imperium 
win by 14 to 10Second level: TO-Oilrig ()Oilrig didn't go very well for Imperium. On the 'easy' side they lost a lot of important rounds. The last side would have to decide the winner. The Germans couldn't keep Imperium from breaking through their defence and won the 4 neeed rounds to win.
Screenshots:
#Imperium win by 11 to 8Conclusion
Infinity stays first in the group and Imperium secures their second spot after a good game.
Tri3st`/ FareWell (Groen  ) 10 Nov 2011 07:59 | Reply |
froZen wrote:
Mr.Proper wrote:
...But that ACC back then made some mistakes isn't a lie. Same thing happened to haku imo?
Thats probably the worst example you could give 
Haku got banned, 2 or 3 times (2 at least) ? And I clearly remember one of his demos.. hell even a 13 years old could hide the fact that he was using radar better than him. It was incredibly blatant. Probably that demo is still up, dunno.
Anyway, we're talking here about human reliability and obviously errors can be and will be made, thats why updated anti-cheat programs are so important in e-gaming generaly speaking.
But Frozen this demo whas .. you're biggest mistake ever :P
demo is still up and still clean!
http://clanbase.ggl.com/warinfo.php?wid=8891546 . |
| Fuffzich<3 (@L.O.V.E) 10 Nov 2011 03:32 | Reply |
Mr.Proper wrote:
Fuffzich<3 wrote:because you admit with that, that napy did cheat on ESE-protect Server without any ESE Punishment (Log) ;D
From which of my statements do you conclude that? You're just making up some stuff :/ I didn't even use the word ESE in my last post nor did I refer to ESE. When Napy was convicted ESE was just in beta as far as I remember.
Fuffzich<3 wrote:napy never was/is/will get Banned @ ese because he did/do/will never do cheat! but wayne...
Ofcourse he wasn't banned at ESE back then, ESE wasn't even running and hell there was no partnership between CB and ESE.
ESE was runing! :x
that means even if ESE was in beta status during that time (it is still in beta Status but ;x ), ese would (and still do) log such things like it did every time! only to finish in a Ban would need some more time (for analyses) because ese wants to get sure it is really a cheat and not a bug or what ever...
Mr.Proper wrote: But his trigger was obvious. Seems to me you don't really have an idea what thread/topic we are talking about.
I watched the demoS dude!
and not only watch...
but still wayne... |
| pd^ ... kriebelig (rG.) 9 Nov 2011 18:56 | Reply |
Lekker ori  .. kut belg |
P03NTJ3.exe (mS  ) 8 Nov 2011 04:52 | Reply |
so bottemline: mS is still in cup!
cu when u get there |
froZen  (ClanBase Crew) 8 Nov 2011 03:09 | Reply |
Mr.Proper wrote:
...But that ACC back then made some mistakes isn't a lie. Same thing happened to haku imo?
Thats probably the worst example you could give
Haku got banned, 2 or 3 times (2 at least) ? And I clearly remember one of his demos.. hell even a 13 years old could hide the fact that he was using radar better than him. It was incredibly blatant. Probably that demo is still up, dunno.
Anyway, we're talking here about human reliability and obviously errors can be and will be made, thats why updated anti-cheat programs are so important in e-gaming generaly speaking. |
| Mr.Proper (Mr.Proper) 7 Nov 2011 22:34 | Reply |
Fuffzich<3 wrote:
it's really funny that you put this ridicules ban in the game
The only thing ridiculous was his natural aim.
Fuffzich<3 wrote:because you admit with that, that napy did cheat on ESE-protect Server without any ESE Punishment (Log) ;D
From which of my statements do you conclude that? You're just making up some stuff :/ I didn't even use the word ESE in my last post nor did I refer to ESE. When Napy was convicted ESE was just in beta as far as I remember.
Fuffzich<3 wrote:napy never was/is/will get Banned @ ese because he did/do/will never do cheat! but wayne...
Ofcourse he wasn't banned at ESE back then, ESE wasn't even running and hell there was no partnership between CB and ESE.
But his trigger was obvious. Seems to me you don't really have an idea what thread/topic we are talking about.
It was just to underline that trigger/bot can be filtered out of demos easier than radar. |
| Fuffzich<3 (@L.O.V.E) 7 Nov 2011 19:26 | Reply |
Mr.Proper wrote:
Trigger/aimbot can be filtered out of demos. ruF|napy f.e. was a clear trigger. However I do agree radar is a different story but people make misstakes and you never know if something impossible happened. So completely useless isn't true. But that ACC back then made some mistakes isn't a lie. Same thing happened to haku imo?
it's really funny that you put this ridicules ban in the game
because you admit with that, that napy did cheat on ESE-protect Server without any ESE Punishment (Log) ;D
napy never was/is/will get Banned @ ese because he did/do/will never do cheat! but wayne...
same for voodoofighter... (but of course in a totally different case!)
no ESE no Win!! |
| Roach ([DA] ) 7 Nov 2011 19:23 | Reply |
-rD.Mr.Khaki- wrote:
froZen:
I share the same opinion to be honest, ESE is a great improvement to this game
but why? since ese starts, nobody is playing this game anymore.
cause ese bans all players for long time and sometimes without any real reasons. speedtweak and cheating is still possible and the gameplay was destroyed by eseengine.
finally demowatching ist still the only way for real proof.
dont follow roach, hes the biggest bullshittalker and noob.
without any manual hes not even able to use the elevator on trooper and hes near drowning on rapid every time.
if u like 2 listen 2 a gay who have no idea bout TO, then follow him...monacohomos
Haha Hamcee, I think I don't have to amplify a totally hilarious post by a guy with an IQ more than two standard deviations below average who overestimates himself so much that the only thing I have left for him is pity. |
| Mr.Proper (Mr.Proper) 7 Nov 2011 18:34 | Reply |
Roach wrote:
Sorry frozen, but demo watching is the most useless thing ever unless the cheater is really stupid. I was in ACC some years ago and lots of decisions I witnessed were totally hilarious (there were guys in ACC who were not able to distinguish between the use of a radar and just following bloodtrails on the ground). You never can be sure just by watching a demo. You never know the conversation via voice, can't judge prediction and luck. So in my opinion as long as there is no log as evidence or a clear use of an aimbot like HH|frozen back then (accidental resemblance) you just can't tell if someone cheated or not. Best example was the ban of one of my mates when we played as Monaco Gaming and no one knew us. Just because we bashed clans like BiA etc back then we were suspicious. The result was the ban of a former DkH player who won several CB Cups, GSL finals etc just because the CB admins decided that he cheated, what he definitely did not. As soon as you want to see a cheat on a demo you'll find enough scenes to back up your opinion. Demo watching always is biased and therefore no viable solution to catch cheaters.
http://cheat.clanbase.com/dekadence.rar
His demo is still online if you want to check 
P.S.:
No ESE, no win
Trigger/aimbot can be filtered out of demos. ruF|napy f.e. was a clear trigger. However I do agree radar is a different story but people make misstakes and you never know if something impossible happened. So completely useless isn't true. But that ACC back then made some mistakes isn't a lie. Same thing happened to haku imo? |
| -rD.Mr.Khaki- (rD) 7 Nov 2011 17:18 | Reply |
froZen:
I share the same opinion to be honest, ESE is a great improvement to this game
but why? since ese starts, nobody is playing this game anymore.
cause ese bans all players for long time and sometimes without any real reasons. speedtweak and cheating is still possible and the gameplay was destroyed by eseengine.
finally demowatching ist still the only way for real proof.
dont follow roach, hes the biggest bullshittalker and noob.
without any manual hes not even able to use the elevator on trooper and hes near drowning on rapid every time.
if u like 2 listen 2 a gay who have no idea bout TO, then follow him...monacohomos |
| froZen (ClanBase Crew) 7 Nov 2011 09:49 | Reply |
-rD.Mr.Wh1t3- aka FAUST wrote:
and that no demo watching possibility makes the bypassers TO gods who will never be caught and be the best 
no matter what, people can still ask for demos and request the admins to watch them if they find something suspicious. in ladders and cups |
| -rD.Mr.Wh1t3- aka FAUST (rD) 7 Nov 2011 08:18 | Reply |
and that no demo watching possibility makes the bypassers TO gods who will never be caught and be the best |
| froZen (]C[ ) 7 Nov 2011 07:02 | Reply |
Roach wrote:
froZen wrote:
you know, there's still people capable of watching some demos. Iam not saying ESE isn't important, but even with ESE, some people still can bypass it.
gg though, playoffs inc.
Sorry frozen, but demo watching is the most useless thing ever unless the cheater is really stupid. I was in ACC some years ago and lots of decisions I witnessed were totally hilarious (there were guys in ACC who were not able to distinguish between the use of a radar and just following bloodtrails on the ground). You never can be sure just by watching a demo. You never know the conversation via voice, can't judge prediction and luck. So in my opinion as long as there is no log as evidence or a clear use of an aimbot like HH|frozen back then (accidental resemblance) you just can't tell if someone cheated or not. Best example was the ban of one of my mates when we played as Monaco Gaming and no one knew us. Just because we bashed clans like BiA etc back then we were suspicious. The result was the ban of a former DkH player who won several CB Cups, GSL finals etc just because the CB admins decided that he cheated, what he definitely did not. As soon as you want to see a cheat on a demo you'll find enough scenes to back up your opinion. Demo watching always is biased and therefore no viable solution to catch cheaters.
http://cheat.clanbase.com/dekadence.rar
His demo is still online if you want to check
P.S.:
No ESE, no win
I share the same opinion to be honest, ESE is a great improvement to this game, we both know why aca former acc died anyway. iam just saying that if there's unbiased guys that know something about the game, demo watching might still be possible, but ofc, its always risky and its impossible nowadays to establish a team without biased players (community is rly small right now) |
| Roach ([DA] ) 6 Nov 2011 18:50 | Reply |
froZen wrote:
you know, there's still people capable of watching some demos. Iam not saying ESE isn't important, but even with ESE, some people still can bypass it.
gg though, playoffs inc.
Sorry frozen, but demo watching is the most useless thing ever unless the cheater is really stupid. I was in ACC some years ago and lots of decisions I witnessed were totally hilarious (there were guys in ACC who were not able to distinguish between the use of a radar and just following bloodtrails on the ground). You never can be sure just by watching a demo. You never know the conversation via voice, can't judge prediction and luck. So in my opinion as long as there is no log as evidence or a clear use of an aimbot like HH|frozen back then (accidental resemblance) you just can't tell if someone cheated or not. Best example was the ban of one of my mates when we played as Monaco Gaming and no one knew us. Just because we bashed clans like BiA etc back then we were suspicious. The result was the ban of a former DkH player who won several CB Cups, GSL finals etc just because the CB admins decided that he cheated, what he definitely did not. As soon as you want to see a cheat on a demo you'll find enough scenes to back up your opinion. Demo watching always is biased and therefore no viable solution to catch cheaters.
http://cheat.clanbase.com/dekadence.rar
His demo is still online if you want to check
P.S.:
No ESE, no win |
| 100% (100%) 6 Nov 2011 15:21 | Reply |
yo k1lo so shame that guy with your skill can whine about your opp. cheating , just because u lost ((( If u lost , plz have respect to say "goodgame guys" u was good today , but we take a revange at the next time or smth / it's low bro / so gg 2 imp. they won cause they deserve won. so talking about nonese game it's just blablabla/ no offense |
| froZen (ClanBase Crew) 6 Nov 2011 10:37 | Reply |
you know, there's still people capable of watching some demos. Iam not saying ESE isn't important, but even with ESE, some people still can bypass it.
gg though, playoffs inc. |
| Roach ([DA] ) 4 Nov 2011 22:33 | Reply |
zNee! wrote:
Roach wrote:
No ESE, no win
Let's wait for the mS vs DD result if Imperium really will be #2 So , don't accept war -.-
lol no comment
you do realize that I'm not in any of those clans?
Still I say no ESE, no win. |
| zNee! (-eXtreMo.) 4 Nov 2011 17:21 | Reply |
Roach wrote:
No ESE, no win
Let's wait for the mS vs DD result if Imperium really will be #2 So , don't accept war -.- |
tASt3^ - Wolfswinkel (-epNbles.  ) 4 Nov 2011 07:54 | Reply |
Thanks for voting for beArdy`. |
| Myttoxx^ (#.Imperium ) 4 Nov 2011 07:07 | Reply |
Nice war Imperium u dead Infinity |
| MaN!aCz0r - WangWangWang (-gOver. ) 4 Nov 2011 03:54 | Reply |
g7u wrote:
$aRu wrote:
lol..gzu get a job or something
took me 2 min tho
dont need to brag about ur big brain ahahah |
| g7u (.cl) 4 Nov 2011 03:45 | Reply |
$aRu wrote:
lol..gzu get a job or something
took me 2 min tho |
| Roach ([DA] ) 4 Nov 2011 00:53 | Reply |
-rD.Mr.Wh1t3- aka FAUST wrote:
I honestly dare to say that imperium didnt cheat! i rather suspect germans more of these kind of actions specially not florian , he is also good with ese
that's why in relation to the player count there are way more nl/be cheaters than german ones... |
| -rD.Mr.Wh1t3- aka FAUST (rD) 4 Nov 2011 00:30 | Reply |
I honestly dare to say that imperium didnt cheat! i rather suspect germans more of these kind of actions specially not florian , he is also good with ese |
| $aRu (#.Imperium ) 3 Nov 2011 23:34 | Reply |
lol..gzu get a job or something |
| g7u (.cl) 3 Nov 2011 21:19 | Reply |
Oh, thanks mytoxx! I got the scores wrong, my bad. It would still be the same positions tho! It would only mean now that mS needs to win with a netresult of +8 vs DD. Although I didn't take the net result from DD/CZE-wars into account yet as I think that only the netresult between the topping clans matter. |
| #1337|Myttoxx^ (#1337|) 3 Nov 2011 20:18 | Reply |
g7u wrote:
Roach wrote:
No ESE, no win
Let's wait for the mS vs DD result if Imperium really will be #2
AFAIK it is the result between the top-ranked clans that will determine who is going to advantage. Lets assume mS would win vs DD so that mS, infinity and imperium end the groupstage with all having 3 wins, 1 loss, 0 draws.
inf-imp: 21-25 - 18-25*
imp-mS:18-25
inf-ms: 25-11
So that would give a result of:
imperium: 43/46 = -3
infinity: 46/36 = +10
mS: 36/43 = -7
However I'm not 100% sure if it works this way. If not mS needs to do better than a 4-round-difference win versus DD in order to have a better netresult than imperium.
inf-imp: 21-25 - 18/25*
imp-mS:18-25
inf-ms: 25-11
So that would give a result of:
imperium: 43/46 = -3 - 43/43 = 0*
infinity: 46/36 = +10
mS: 36/43 = -7
g7u Infinity 18-25 vs imperium * |
| g7u (.cl) 3 Nov 2011 18:04 | Reply |
Roach wrote:
No ESE, no win
Let's wait for the mS vs DD result if Imperium really will be #2
AFAIK it is the result between the top-ranked clans that will determine who is going to advantage. Lets assume mS would win vs DD so that mS, infinity and imperium end the groupstage with all having 3 wins, 1 loss, 0 draws.
inf-imp: 21-25
imp-mS:18-25
inf-ms: 25-11
So that would give a result of:
imperium: 43/46 = -3
infinity: 46/36 = +10
mS: 36/43 = -7
However I'm not 100% sure if it works this way. If not mS needs to do better than a 4-round-difference win versus DD in order to have a better netresult than imperium. |
| Ulquiorra - Moppie (@infinity ) 3 Nov 2011 17:53 | Reply |
XD i didn't play so only natural that we lost |
| k1Lo - kaese (@infinity ) 3 Nov 2011 17:17 | Reply |
i definately know that u will get bashed with ese next time , so if u had fun hacking its okay |
| Lowk!ck (mS ) 3 Nov 2011 16:29 | Reply |
gratz imperium |
| flor!an.be (#.Imperium ) 3 Nov 2011 14:36 | Reply |
I know I'm great, thanks. Negatively connotated remarks regarding certain historical events are rather to be interpreted as insults. Why would one be whining after winning for the third time already? :s |
| Roach ([DA] ) 3 Nov 2011 14:23 | Reply |
No ESE, no win
Let's wait for the mS vs DD result if Imperium really will be #2 |
| MaN!aCz0r - WangWangWang (-gOver. ) 3 Nov 2011 07:44 | Reply |
Fuffzich - #LulzSec wrote:
..and the People Choice Award for the greatest whiner in the 21 century goes to! ... drum-roll ... "flor!an.be"
flor!an.be: Ohh! Thank you, thank you. it's a big honor for me. I thank God, my Mom and of course my Fans. The Best Fans you can ever have on Planet Earth! Thank you guys, without you I would be nothing!
AHAHHAAHAHHAHAHHAHAH |
| Fuffzich - #LulzSec (@infinity ) 3 Nov 2011 07:39 | Reply |
..and the People Choice Award for the greatest whiner in the 21 century goes to! ... drum-roll ... "flor!an.be"
flor!an.be: Ohh! Thank you, thank you. it's a big honor for me. I thank God, my Mom and of course my Fans. The Best Fans you can ever have on Planet Earth! Thank you guys, without you I would be nothing! |
| Lowk!ck (mS ) 3 Nov 2011 05:49 | Reply |
gratz imperium |
| beArdy` (#.Imperium ) 3 Nov 2011 05:43 | Reply |
Good Game, lekker gespeeld boys. |
| MaN!aCz0r - WangWangWang (-gOver. ) 3 Nov 2011 05:24 | Reply |
kilo i think beardy was the hacker u were talking about, ask for his demos uhuh |
| RMq ([3D] ) 3 Nov 2011 05:21 | Reply |
gg |
| MaN!aCz0r - WangWangWang (-gOver. ) 3 Nov 2011 05:16 | Reply |
Thanks for voting for $aRu. cause ur a noob |
| ne (#Imp HB ) 3 Nov 2011 05:12 | Reply |
moffens down wahaaha |
| DiaLogicz (Fz!) 3 Nov 2011 05:09 | Reply |
Thanks for voting for beArdy`.
Beuktor |
| Xavier (#.Imperium ) 3 Nov 2011 05:09 | Reply |
Thanks for voting for $aru (NOT!) we want naked pics of brina! Thx |
| ta1Ls. (uNiq ) 2 Nov 2011 22:09 | |
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