UT TDM OpenCup Spring 2012


Demo case; player dam1en
by: keshat
After the match JaLLa vs NMP a request to upload demos was made for player dam1en. A demo was supplied to the supervisors by dam1en, but unfortunately the demo file was corrupted, as a result it will be considered to not have been uploaded. For this reason we will be requesting from dam1en that he uploads all further demos from each match he participates in in this cup. Failure to do so will result in a cup ban for him and a default loss for his team.

Match Rules - General
Demos missing (broken or not recorded) more than 20% of the time played do not count as uploaded. Demos count as broken when they can't be played on systems following the client settings described earlier.

The Supervisors and AntiCheat-team can demand someone to upload a demo of every map he/she plays in this cup. Failure to upload the demo within 3 days results in an immediate cup ban.



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#24 dece^retired (fch.)  12 May 2012 06:06
mrcooper!* wrote:
shitload of bullocks


edit: laughable bs, but whatever. no interest in starting a flame war.
#23 GeXz (ftp)  11 May 2012 20:03
Love you too mate. :*
#22 megozn1k (gram )  11 May 2012 17:16
GeXz wrote:
Gj Keshat once again. As for gram players, keep on rocking that cheats, it suits you more and you have the support from admins so would be sad if you don't win the first place. Really sad indeed.


Three words :

Fuck you.
#21 jarano (jarano)  11 May 2012 09:46
GeXz wrote:
Gj Keshat once again. As for gram players, keep on rocking that cheats, it suits you more and you have the support from admins so would be sad if you don't win the first place. Really sad indeed.

In Poland we call it the "Pepin syndrome" A really nasty thing Dont even bother to go see the doctor Its far too late \o7
#20 GeXz (ftp)  11 May 2012 08:24
Gj Keshat once again. As for gram players, keep on rocking that cheats, it suits you more and you have the support from admins so would be sad if you don't win the first place. Really sad indeed.
#19 aedel (ftp)  5 May 2012 12:49 
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#18 o.z* (ftp)  4 May 2012 23:01
[quote]megozn1k wrote:
o.z* wrote:
megozn1k wrote:
rediculous shit.




#care

obv you do!
#17 megozn1k (gram )  4 May 2012 22:57
o.z* wrote:
megozn1k wrote:
rediculous shit.




#care

win something fair and square against anyone above old div3 level then we'll talk.

cheers
#16 o.z* (ftp)  4 May 2012 22:53
megozn1k wrote:
rediculous shit.


#15 megozn1k (gram )  4 May 2012 22:20
mrcooper!* wrote:
this is the second time in 6 months that a suspicious player FROM POLAND didnt upload a demo and this time it was even officially requested.


Not gonna argue about Damien, cause if you look at his scores in the last two games I understand being suspicious. Hell, it smells fish even to me -.-

On the other hand last season there was nothing suspicious about Jakub (ex KDK) having an efficiency around 30-40% against such pushovers like ftp. He was lagging like hell during the game, running away 90% of time hiding and letting the rest of us to do the job.

The only reason the demo was requested was to win a game and advance to the playoffs (Jakub was picked for request although he was the worst gram player in the match. He was picked because he got disconnected during the game - but you already know that, don't you?).

I believe everyone here see the difference between these two cases, apart from ftp. You are just a bad loser, nothing more. Oh, and you are also a racist fag

Im very happy kes used your own weapon against you last season. Big respect for that, shows what a good and nonbiased supervisor he is.
#14 roh.hprl ([RoH])  4 May 2012 18:21
zkyp wrote:
3mb file for a 25+ minute game with ace8h, that's not weird at all. .


It's because it's been cut after some part, either manually or by some unknown bug. When you check demo files you can observe that every demo file ends with bytes:

00 40

But this one for some reason does not. Just a quick observation, I cannot find any .dem file specifications so I cannot tell more.

It looks suspicious.

By the way edel, I have no idea what are you talking about. First you insinuate that my clan was involved in any fakenicking case (which is not true) then you accuse me of getting personal? What the...?

edit:

actually there are more regularities. It seems like at the end of each demo there are some blocks separated by three null bytes, most likely some kind of information about the file. If someone had detailed information then I believe we could at least try to watch what was there.

I'll check scenarios including UT crash to determine wether it is possible for demo to be "cut in half". At this very moment sadly I lean towards manual manipulation.
#13 aimless ([d4s]^ )  4 May 2012 17:30
He still won't need to upload demo from our game, which is kinda sad. Woud be fun to compare both demos. Although, nothing to compare as the 1st one does't work.
#12 zkyp (23 )  4 May 2012 15:46
3mb file for a 25+ minute game with ace8h, that's not weird at all. .
#11 Bo_Ob (JaLLa!! )  4 May 2012 13:22
Not a hard punishment, but at least its something. Thanks for the work kestha, its clear there was something wrong with damien (especially when he suddenly sucked balls vs d4s...). Anywayz let it be a warning for everyone who tries to cheat.
#10 aedel (ftp)  4 May 2012 12:56
oh nice. instead of talking about the issues of having a 1 time cheat wildcard you start personal ) gg
#9 roh.hprl ([RoH])  4 May 2012 10:43
Case with my clan? WTF edel, what are you smoking?

http://clanbase.ggl.com/news_league.php?wid=10846819&lid=11838

It wasn't my clan.
#8 keshat (CB)  4 May 2012 09:58
Edel, you'll still lose the match. We left this unchanged because JaLLa won it fair already. Looks like you're just bitter about failing to make a correct request last season and not getting your much desired forfeit win?
#7 mrcooper!* (ftp)  4 May 2012 08:49
well i wont start that "all polaks are cheating" discussion, its bullshit, i played with a lot of skilled polish players that proofed me Im wrong.
But lets be honest - remembering the last few cazes where a demo was required or someone faked .. there was always a polakk involved..now, gram, the fake case with hprls + andros clan 2 cups ago, ...

still: imo that ruling allows every player to cheat once per cupseason
#6 PlaYFuL (evo )  4 May 2012 08:47
nuXx if your message was aimed at me I agree with you. My point was in regards to Edel pretty much saying people should get banned straight away for not uploading a demo people to genuinly forget.

Oh and nuXx we all know bleh cheats anyway
#5 roh.hprl ([RoH])  3 May 2012 22:38
repost
#4 nuXx ([f]* )  3 May 2012 22:04
PlaYFuL wrote:
Settle down edel. What shall the sups do mate? Ban everyone if they fail to upload a demo?


Forfeit loss and every future demo has to be uploaded, if said player fails to do so, remove the clan from the cup, its not that hard. I didn't say that it wasn't officially requested last season Edel, it was but that was something I could do nothing about it.it made me pretty angry if I'm honest because alot of lies were told.
#3 PlaYFuL (evo )  3 May 2012 21:18
Settle down edel. What shall the sups do mate? Ban everyone if they fail to upload a demo?
#2 roh.hprl ([RoH])  3 May 2012 20:48
Well Edel I don't think nation does play any role here so I just wouldn't bring it. Sadly, I have to agree on everything else you have said.
#1 mrcooper!* (ftp)  3 May 2012 20:05
lol I will never understand your rules regarding demo case.
this is the second time in 6 months that a suspicious player FROM POLAND didnt upload a demo and this time it was even officially requested.
[yes, i mean ftp vs gram last season].
both times the supervisors stated it as "not uploaded" and "player has to upload the next demos".
so guys - feel free to cheat in one clanbase game, doesnt matter wether its obvious or not - just dont upload a demo - or upload the demo but use a hexeditor and make it corrupt )

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