yup, still the same.

agree !!!

< N!Ce > What do you prefer to have in a cup? Predominately new or old maps?
< Bonket > New.

Trime travelling Ninja-styleZ!

Why not bring back some old school, hard, true Div 1 maps since it's only 2 caps?

Abomination
Anghellic (Edited end fall)
Another
Asylum (I or II)
Benign (Shameless plug!!)
DontDie
Flagrant
Mario
OcarinaOfTime(HV)
PoisonBase
Rebirth
Somber
Torment

Make it hard for a 1v1 cup, none of this 2 caps 0 deaths without breaking a sweat. I'm just saying.....

So you'd rather play a luck map, than skill based map?

I second that.

Edit: Ok,maybe not Ominous in particular,but another skill-based map which is not Top Div1 difficulty like Flagrant,but is a little less hard - like Torture][ or Asylum][.

I'l post some Div 3 suggestions as well.Count my Div3 suggestions as the ones from Crylizhy ( my clanmate,rather new to BT ).

Div 3:
BT-A1LostFactoryCB,
BT-Average,
BT-Blahblahblah-v2,
BT-CapitulumCB!,
BT-DomicileCB,
BT-EvilTombCB,
BT-MaverickCB,
BT-MiningFacilityCE,
BT-iLLNeSsCB,
BT-Inevitable,
BT-MountainBaseCB,
BT-LavaFactory-fixed, ( A classic rush map for Div3 players? )
BT-Timeless-Lv
BT-Rush,
BT-ShurCB.

We would rather have Ominous than Flagrant, I'm just saying.

fixed

No viper, ty!

That's why i'm 'discussing'? polish fail :<

That's a good shout, I love that map, but the maze sucks

If normal weapon maps are included in the cup then I'm out.

A few of my suggestions...

Div1

AbydosCB
Area-51-CB
Covenant
Halcyon
LethalSunCB2
PhazonCB
RookCB
Torture][CB
VaultCB

=========

Div2

ButtonMap
ChantryCE
ConcreteFactoryCB
CurseOfHoogvlietCB3-Fix (I made fix already)
Dimension-v2 (with maze disabled?)
DodgeDungeon
EvilTwinCB
FrolicLego's
HellsChamber
Hiding-Dungeon
KillerBunnyCB
Knightmare][-vF / Knightfare][-v2
LinksOdyssey-v2 (with teleporter fix)
LostTempleCB
MagmaBaseCB
OceanographyCE?
Spacecraft
SyphilisCB (no sc's allowed)


=========

Div3

A1LostFactoryCB
BeforeMan
CursedSanctuary
DomicileCB
EvilTombCB
Genaration2FIX
HillValleyCB
L0s3r
MaverickCB
MiningFacilitySE
MissionImpossible-v5
MountainBaseCE
Newby / NewbyReloaded
Pacey-v4
ReligiousRush
ShurCB

Be nice to just see a classic map list mainly to the fact that I don't play now and haven't for quite some time. Really don't want to have to learn loads of new ones.

Div1:

Factory
Horror
Area
AdeonFactory
Slaughter
Decayed
Ominous
Solarmoon

Div 1

BT-Lethalsun
BT-Slaughter
BT-Area51
CTF-BT-Anghellic
CTF-BT-NR
CTF-BT-Haryuu-No

Div 2

CTF-BT-JmX-BioShocK
CTF-BT-Ocarina_of_Time(EZ)
CTF-BT-Ominous
CTF-BT-(Rp)-iBT-v0
CTF-BT-Ardon
CTF-BT-PolarExpedition

Div 3

CTF-BT-Zima-vF2
CTF-BT-PainV5b
BT-1
CTF-BT-(PL)Egypt
CTF-BT-KcirevaM
BT-JustRush_v2
CTF-BT-SnowyPark_i4g

I've done a lot of research and tested most of the BT Cup-Maps recently,also maps from previous seasons, to share my personal views of which maps I would like to see in this BT 1v1 Cup.Just as pthd,I've decided to practice hard and give it a try in Div 1.
My personal opinion/comments:

Div1:
BT-Adeon-FactoryCE,
BT-Area-51-CB,
BT-Asylum][CB or BT-LethalSunCB,
BT-BuriedCityOfUrCB,
BT-Efreet-v2,
BT-EvilutionIICB or BT-Torture][CB ( a good map to consider? )
BT-FactoryCB!,
BT-HauntingCB,
BT-Horror-CB,
BT-InsecureCB,
BT-MagmaBase-vF,
BT-Mausoleum (amazing hard/long Div1 map!) or BT-PhazonCB,
BT-Primeval-v3,
BT-SlaughterCB,
BT-Torment-v3 or BT-OminousCB ( a bit luck based tho? ).

Most of the maps were proven to be great Cup-Maps before,as they have great flow combined with hard skill factor. ( But not as devastating as Flagrant,TwoCastles,BioShock,Krypton,Vault etc which seem like weeks of practice = very time/life unfriendly,especially in Summer.They also seem like death parade in a cup game = motivation loss... ).
Also a few additions ( Mausoleum,Torture,Asylum][,not sure about the third one tho ) and a few fast-paced skill but non-luck maps,combined with some Pain Relief easier maps like Haunting,MagmaBase,Efreet.

Leave one long map for div1, either Vault or TwoCastles

Div1

Factory
Horror
Aeron
SolarMoon
AdeonFactory
and some new map

Div2

Syphilis (great for 1 vs 1)
Magmabase
Oceanography
MetalComplex

Div3

Maverick (cup without this map sux :P)
DragRace
Maybe BT-KcirevaM ? sth new think about it

NO! for low fps maps like thelostjournal

Some ideas.
Assigned Divisions are subject to personal experience and final player line-up, so don't nail me to that.

Div1
--------------------
AstridCB
BioShocK-v3
Castlevania
CircumscribeCB3
Mystery-FortressCB
Villa-v2

Div2
-------------------
AgainstBoss-v2
Alcatras
Argos
ChaoticCB
Foulness
Grateful
Happy2007
HARDWARE[NuLL]
Hell
Hiding-Dungeon
Insidious-v2
K'rools-Jungle
LegoSolitude-vF
MarsAttack
OldMill-v2
Peaceful_fix
PompTraxx-v2
SuperMario-v2
Tainted-v1
Trash-v2
Vanille
VirusCB
Xanadu-EZ

Div3
-----------------------
11Rooms
DiabloTemple
EgyptianSun-v2
FutureRunner-c2h2a1
MarioBros(NV)
TechDiff-v2
TheWind

I guess after I've read the main post and also seen the suggestions here, I might have to retreat from my sign up. I really don't want to play Slaughter and all of those good ol' maps, Div2 doesn't look very good either :S.
I know.. people literally hate "new" or not so often seen maps. Isn't learning efficiently also an important feature of 1on1? Either way, the people with the most time on their hands and a little bit of luck will win.
This cup is a chance to overcome the time-capsule attitude of the community and open to a fresh wind, as it might be one of the last bursting through this scene...

Peace

MaZ

For Division 2:

BT-CurseOfHoogvliet
BT-MetalComplex
BT-Hells-Chamber
BT-Froliclegos
BT-A1BreakoutCB
BT-DarkSideCB
BT-Ocarina_of_Time(EZ)
BT-TheWind
BT-Shur_fix
BT-CorkWood-v2

Haven't been playing BT for very long, and it will be my first time I play a BT cup, but I would prefer to play in div1, as I like the harder maps best (even though I probably don't stand a chance).

Suggested maps:

26
Stilongs (might be a bit long for 1v1, but I do like it)
Aeron
Rook
Facade
Infuriate
...

Many of the other div1 maps I do not really know, so hereby a request:

Does anyone have a private server with all CB maps, which I can use to practise the maps I do not know yet?

Regards,

iCTFnoobie

The suggested maps look nice.

+1 DecayedCollapse and SolarMoon

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

1 BT-Aeron / BT-Troitsky
2 BT-CurseOfHoogvliet / BT-Insidious
3 BT-Illness / BT-Corrupt


I also crater much on Blaz after fallbuttonslime. Only 1/10 attempts work. Is this going to be fixed?

Dont make any drastic changes sups, the pool is looking good as it is. But as Raylen mentioned, it's nice to have different level of skill within one division.

Here are some very good maps in these maplists:
http://clanbase.ggl.com/news_league.php?nid=175250&lid=2085

In my opinion Area51CB is good map for this cup, BuriedCityOfUr too.
Do you want to see fantastic games? Add these maps! :]
Also Abydos and Flagrant isnt bad, and OmiOmiOmiOminous!

Thinking of joining it in Div3... but I have a question... what servers are this matches played on... in most servers I have a 200 + ping

Oh and a extra map... for Div 3... I think is called "Generation"

no flagrant, that's like worst cup map you can think of

Div 2 suggestion: (K)Primeval

Division 1 :
BT-Krypton
BT-LethalSun
BT-Vault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BT-Rook
BT-AdeonFactory
BT-DecayedCollapse
BT-TheLostJournal
BT-Phazon
BT-Facade
BT-FrolicLegos
BT-Ominous
BT-Factory!!!!! <- a must map!

SUGGESTIONS FROM ME:
div1
BT-Frozt-v2
BT-Osiris


div2
BT-Interaction
BT-Linear
BT-(Roel)Energized-v3
BT-(L)Solemn
BT-EvilTwinCB

div3
BT-SubtleFallout-v2
BT-Ibarra-v2
BT-DomicileV2 (someone remind me, are timings tight?)
BT-Inside
BT-Inevitable


I've mentioned couple short maps in div3, but one wouldn't hurt.

Also, for div1:
-no factory (broken shitmap)
-no phazon

Aslong if there is flagrant in it, i'm okay with it

eviltwin to all divisions! =D very great map for any amount of players and skills.

ye, buried, phazon, rook! all ok also imo

nice suggestions there, like: 26, adeon, bioshock, lethalsun, perfectified, slaughter, lostjournal. greatly fits to my cup of tea!

i'd have a vote for smth like these: decayedcollapse, flagrant, facade, absolution. okay, i wont complain about factory either ye, i really said it!

Oh and I'm going to use a separate comment to say a big no-no to Blazing, or any other map in which you can crater on bouncers etc.

I don't really mind what maps are in as long as they suit their particular division, but I wouldn't like maps that have too many shortcuts that will give a clear advantage to rushers, (else it will become a rushers cup). A good example of a map like this would be Stormsurge, although I don't think this has been used in a CB cup.

I heard EvilTwin is a good map I don't know about it's suitability in 1v1 though, but I'll be happy to make any necessary changes. There are already a few edits I want to make but I haven't had the motivation or reason to do so yet...

Blazing is not good for me. For some reason the bouncers hate me and don't work. If I am lucky enough to survive the slime one I can guarantee cratering on the one near the end. Anyone else get this?

If I think of any more map suggestions, I'll post them later. I've just returned from holiday and am a bit jet lagged so I can't think atm...

I think for all divisions you want a nice mix of maps. Harder maps that will likely have some deaths:

D1: Flagrant, BuriedCity
D2: OldMill, Krypton
D3: SubtleFallout (harder?)

...shorter maps that encourage speed:

D1: Phazon
D2: Luxor (would also have Phazon here)
D3: Rush

...and then some generally "known to be awesome" maps:

LostJournal
Rook
LethalSun
AeronCB (CB version is nice)
SolarMoon
LostTemple
Slaughter
HellsChamber
DecayedCollapse (div 2 map surely?)

...etc

For some other ideas what about:

Frozt
Legoism or NSMFactory

Looks good, Chupa cups rule <3

I see some nice suggestions already. What about these maps:

BT-Rebellion-v2 (div1)
BT-Osiris (div2)
BT-EgyptianSun-v2 (div3)

Wth i want flagrant!!!!

For div 1 :

BT-Area-51-CB
BT-BuriedCityOfUrCB2
BT-ChaoticCB(?)
BT-CXIsland-CB
BT-DecayedCollapseCB(?)
BT-EgyptianTheBeginningCB(?)
BT-FacadeCB
BT-FrolicLegos
BT-InfuriateCB
BT-KryptonCB
BT-LethalSunCB2
BT-OminousCB
BT-PerfectifiedCB
BT-TheLostJournalCE

No factory no flagrant, ty!

You think LostTemple is too challenging for Div2? No way, it's a classic Div2 map, at least in 2v2. Then you suggest Krypton for Div2 :? It's way harder than LostTemple and is certainly a Div1 map.


I doubt any NWBT maps will be included in the final maplist. I am also a NW player, but imo it doesn't mix well with BT, at least not in the maps I have played, they are just too hard, especially for non NW players.

For Division 1 :

BT-Flagrant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BT-Lethalsun
BT-Slaughter
BT-TheLostJournal
BT-CXisland
BT-BuriedCityOfUr
BT-Oldmill
BT-Krypton
BT-Primevall
BT-Losttemple
Bt-DecayedCollapse
BT-Phazon
BT-Area51

It's a discussion, guys(gladi). Maps up there are suggestions lol.


Off of your suggestions, Sups, I say a huge NO to TwoCastles. Way too long for a 1v1 imo.

BT-AeronCB

Note that the maps we put up are just some suggestions we came up with to get the discussion going. This is not the actual map list of course (which will actually have 15 maps per division).

Illness, Mesablanca, MountainBase, Mining Facility No idea which division these would be for, though.

Lethal Sun, Perfectified, TheLostJournal... aren't these more 2v2 maps though?

I am missing Factory... instant fail cup?

Maplist looks okay. Maybe BT-LosttempleCB is a bit too challenging for div 2 but since i havent signed up you dont have to read this comment. =)

BT-DecayedCollapse and BT-SolarMoon div 1
BT-Krypton div 2 ?
BT-Shur div 3


On a more personal note, i'm a huge normal weapons enthousiast and i would like to see these implemented in bunnytrack maps!